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  1. #221
    Player
    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Character
    Florence Leduc
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    i do play drg and pugilist both at 50, even with 2 skill at place on side/back for the drg is more easier to get the dps and avoid trouble... that not the case with the monk... if you don't respect your rotation, your dps will fall drastically and that not the case with the drg.
    some will say, yeah but it more rewarding and i will answer no, a dragoon on the long term in endgame fight will still deal more damage, because the drop of the GL screw the monk by a looot.
    the attack of the monk deal less damage per hit and without GL you don't hit a lot faster than a dragoon. the time to get back to your full trottle the dragoon will have deal a lot more damage, and each time the GL drop you fall more and more behind.

    and i don't even compare with ranged class.
    position and gl damage buff are a problem, was said while the beta (and not by only me).
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  2. #222
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    JokingCat's Avatar
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    Character
    Asura Strike
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    when i was new to this game i would expect monk to be like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERwVVV96yPA
    i give you some simple combo example from this video of another game.

    your AA is great and fast.
    your passiv skill have a 50% chanse to do a tripple stike wich leads you into some other combos.
    your other combos deals more dmg but it drains your mana depends of wich combos you use, its fair play more dmg = more mana drain.
    you have skills like a RANGE attack, 1 skill wich deals more dmg if the monster have high DEF. and a veary strong attack wich takes all your mana for 1 stirke, basically a LB.
    You have your buffs wich last for like 1 min.
    Now this is a little bit of a offtopic but yea...
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  3. #223
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    neoreturn's Avatar
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    Character
    Neo Anderson
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    monk trouble list
    1. Very bad for solo since the position issue.
    2. very little damage, about 1/2 highest damage compare with other DPS class
    3 attack not fast. Almost same attack speed as bard. Ls3 give 20% faster. But monk need 100% faster to compensate the damage lose
    4 a lots of useless skills.
    5 will be very bad class for upcoming pvp since monk has no burst damage or enough cc skill.

    All these troubles lead monk is hardest job to find group even the population is lowest one.

    Recent data shows no much new player play monk. That is. Who can add more? I hope develop team can redesign this job.
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  4. #224
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    Akamu_Aniketos's Avatar
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    Character
    Akamu Anikatos
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Monk Problems:

    Aoe's are terrible: -It takes 3 moves to use Rock Breaker (Don't bother mentioning perfect balance, archers don't need that to spam their strong aoe's)
    -Arm of the destroyer is EXTREMELY weak, for what benefit? Silence all? I'd rather have a higher potency for damage. I'm a level 50 monk with Full darklight gear, and it took about 12 uses of arm of the destroyer to kill a level 12 turtle, why?
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    Last edited by Akamu_Aniketos; 09-25-2013 at 07:33 AM.

  5. #225
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    Valsh's Avatar
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    Character
    Nala Valsharess
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    monk trouble list
    1. Very bad for solo since the position issue.
    2. very little damage, about 1/2 highest damage compare with other DPS class
    3 attack not fast. Almost same attack speed as bard. Ls3 give 20% faster. But monk need 100% faster to compensate the damage lose
    4 a lots of useless skills.
    5 will be very bad class for upcoming pvp since monk has no burst damage or enough cc skill.
    1. Agree, although not a big problem.
    2. Completely false, monk damage potential is possibly highest in the game
    3. Not relevant considering our damage is good
    4. Completely false, all skills get a good amount of use. Maybe One Ilm Punch and Haymaker get little use due to being super situational - not really a problem.
    5. Every melee class will suck in PvP given how the game works when trying to attack moving targets.
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  6. #226
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    Akamu_Aniketos's Avatar
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    Character
    Akamu Anikatos
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Grease Lighting:-Stacking GL is not fun, but tedious; I would rather have a "boost power" move like in FFXI.

    Range Attack:-Where is Chi Blast? (Shoulder Tackle doesn't count, and has a LONG cooldown)

    Hundred Fists:-Where is this? I saw the NPC of the Puglist guild use it on me.

    Combo System: It gets repetative, and forces you to use certain moves. I would like to string my own combos, instead of being forced to: Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > Snap Punch most of the time. I want a more free combo system.
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  7. #227
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    Character
    Akamu Anikatos
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Positional Damage, why this is annoying:-A lot of times the tank will move to avoid aoe's and cone moves, so if he moves, you move. If he moves a lot, you will get a headache.

    -Fighting solo. When I'm trying to burn down an enemy by myself, say I'm fighting a mob trying to kill the white mage, I'm going to do garbage damage, because I can't be like a sneaky theif and hit it from the side or behind. WE ARE NOT THEIFS, WHY DO WE NEED TO HIT FROM BEHIND OR THE SIDE FOR MAX dAMAGE!??? (Don't bother mentioning to run quickly to the side or any of that, I know how to do that, the question is WHY? We are not theifs. Monks in real life don't need to be sneaky, and sucker punch people.
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  8. #228
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    Passive's Avatar
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    Character
    Passive Criminal
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Akamu_Aniketos View Post
    [B] Monks in real life don't need to be sneaky, and sucker punch people.
    Monks in real life are peaceful people who dont need to fight at all. No need to compare it to anything other than the game itself.
    Having the mechanic to where our class does more damage from a certain direction or spot is actually a good thing because if we were to just do the same damage from anywhere then it'd get far more boring than having to move around.
    I dont see why its so hard for you to move with the tank, just make sure you know the fight and when the tank is going to move because the boss is doing a certain attack and then adjust yourself to continue doing the damage.
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  9. #229
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    Character
    Rapiso Tapiso
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50


    Turn 2 with LB3
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  10. #230
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    Character
    Len Leander
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    Lich
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    Pugilist Lv 42
    Quote Originally Posted by Akamu_Aniketos View Post
    Monks in real life don't need to be sneaky, and sucker punch people.
    Monks in real life are out damaged by range DPS.
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