A solution for fixing speed runners in CM and Prae that tell everyone to skip CS.

[Engineer]

Why do you guys always want a special mode ? What will you guys do when they really do this and make it 2-3 time harder then it now is ? I see the crying threads already coming.

Lol im not asking for a harder mode.

And im not part of "those guys".

[Panthan]

@panthan
Matter of choice , lol. You guys know it will only be this way for a short time ? Many people are still new and it will be less of a problem in the coming months. I have a bigger problem with people joining the duty finder and staying afk for 30 min or start moving when the run is done.

You may want to actually read my response, I dont mind people watching the CS at all, though speedrunners arent forcing anyone do anything, they can demand someone to skip, but there is nothing they can do to force someone to stop watching.
I dont think we need any new feature is needed for the duty finder either, other then a kick option for those afk'ers, then again that does give the majority to dictate the course of the group, including kicking CS watchers or speedrunners out depending who has the majority.

[ShadowHunterrX]

Lol im not asking for a harder mode.

No ofcourse not , you want an easy mode. That`s why i said this. I hope you guys wont get your mode and its coming from somebody also doing those speedruns.

@Panthan
I did read your response and I agreed with you. I just add something on your post , that it will be only this way for a short time .
They can always get an 10 min afk kick timer in a Duty finder.

[Sixteen]

Make your own group if you want to watch cutscenes. It works both ways.

[Engineer]

No ofcourse not , you want an easy mode. That`s why i said this. I hope you guys wont get your mode and its coming from somebody also doing those speedruns.

I dont want an easy mode either. Lol. When did I say that?

[Amayasu]

Removing the tomes is bad - groups stop forming.
Splitting the story people into separate DF is bad - groups stop forming.

Take GW2 as an example - I wonder how many people never completed the story because of Arah? Progression and story are the same thing in an RPG.

Idea: Award more tomes when the group or a member of it watches all cutscenes.

If uber fast CM takes 30 mins with skipping and awards 100, and full-on story cutscene bonanza takes 60 mins, award 200 tomes. The farmers still get rewarded proportionally to their time, story dudes still get their story, and new 50s get some extra tomes which would help them gear for AK, etc etc.

[ShadowHunterrX]

Removing the tomes is bad - groups stop forming.
Splitting the story people into separate DF is bad - groups stop forming.

Take GW2 as an example - I wonder how many people never completed the story because of Arah? Progression and story are the same thing in an RPG.\
Idea: Award more tomes when the group or a member of it watches all cutscenes.

If uber fast CM takes 30 mins with skipping and awards 100, and full-on story cutscene bonanza takes 60 mins, award 200 tomes. The farmers still get rewarded proportionally to their time, story dudes still get their story, and new 50s get some extra tomes which would help them gear for AK, etc etc.

This sounds much better. Nobody wins or loses.

@Engineer
Running CM now with many people that have some good gear is easy -> Easy mode. The next thing people will want is that Cid teleports or runs 2-3 times fasters.

[Furious]

The only feasible way to "fix" the problem is give people who want tomes a better option, and that is a really bad fix for the sake of new characters.

[Hayward]

This is the side effect of trust fund kids addled by ADHD and Red Bull. They want their shinies NOW, NOW, NOW and the hell with what you want to enjoy. Amayasu's idea has a lot to it, but I wonder if it'll pacify these Jenkins wanna-bes enough to work.

[MistyMew]

best solution is to remove all cs from instances.

i never watch cs but for those that want to, they should be able to enjoy the viewing.

so, have a long intro cs outside, when first opening access to the instance at the corresponding npc, as i said before ,make it very epic for those that do enjoy cs, ppl should be able to enjoy the story if they choose to.

but this way it never affects any dungeon runs be it regular or speed.
neither type of player then is affected.