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    Why doesn't this community have actual intelligent responses? I'm not actually suggesting that they lower just BARD global cool down - I'm suggesting they lower it across the board. I am just providing perspective from BRD point of view -- this isn't a "Buff BARDs" thread.

    Unless the forum goers here just happen to lack any real reading comprehension?

    A real simple "I don't agree" or opposing view point would suffice instead of this garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elementxstyle View Post
    Why doesn't this community have actual intelligent responses? I'm not actually suggesting that they lower just BARD global cool down - I'm suggesting they lower it across the board. I am just providing perspective from BRD point of view -- this isn't a "Buff BARDs" thread.
    Well that means if they lower it all together it's a nerf to dragoons and monks AND mages.

    What about Monks and Dragoons positional attacks? Lower GCD's will make there job even harder since they have less time to get into place for the positional bonuses. The positional bonuses aren't easy to land constantly, 2.5 is already pretty fast for the positions they have to get in. (even less for monk since that's there whole gimmick).

    What about mages? The GCD being lower means they will be stuck in casting state while Bards are just firing even faster than before. Lowering the GCD doesn't change their cast time.

    There's a reason why the GCD is how it is, positional bonuses and spell casting would fall much farther behind if it was lower.

    Quote Originally Posted by elementxstyle View Post
    A half second should be enough time to be methodical about choosing abilities and it shouldn't feel as though you're standing there doing nothing. A whole second is a long time in MMO's.
    Maybe for you it's "plenty of time to choose" abilities, but for those playing classes that have to constantly move from flank to back it's a whole different game.

    Lowering GCD only buffs bards, but not anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypsx View Post
    Maybe for you it's "plenty of time to choose" abilities, but for those playing classes that have to constantly move from flank to back it's a whole different game.

    Lowering GCD only buffs bards, but not anyone else.
    I think it's pretty obvious that with a lower GCD, they'd also have to reduce cast times. Right now though, the combat should be faster and more responsive.

    Animation locks are beyond ridiculous, and combat generally feels like its from a stone age MMO. I have to spam instant abilities to get them to actually work. It's so extremely backwards and poorly done that I'm having a hard time seeing how they can avoid losing players in the long run because of such a horrible system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoye View Post
    I think it's pretty obvious that with a lower GCD, they'd also have to reduce cast times. Right now though, the combat should be faster and more responsive.

    Animation locks are beyond ridiculous, and combat generally feels like its from a stone age MMO.
    Monks and Dragoons need that time to get into proper position in order to maximize their damage. Do you plan on increasing run speed as well? All this random overhauling for something that isn't even that big of a deal at higher levels.

    You are possibly the best DPS class, there isn't anything left to complain about.

    Also people like the combat, just because you don't doesn't mean it needs to be overhauled. I like my traditional RPGs, I don't enjoy action games. Everyone has different preferences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imoye View Post
    I have to spam instant abilities to get them to actually work.
    Use them in the middle of your GCD, that's when they are able to work. At the 50% point of the GCD is when they can be activated. You can't face roll them in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elementxstyle View Post
    Why doesn't this community have actual intelligent responses?
    Because intelligent responses usually only follow intelligent queries.

    Though just to humor you, the reason why we probably won't see something like this has been answered well by many people in the thread already. DRG & MNKs rely on off GCD attacks, and although they are off GCD, they are not instant, they have animations that can push back the next attack. All of DRG's jumps will push back your next attack by around half a second so it already turns it into a 3 sec GCD. Making the GCD shorter will just exacerbate this issue for melee while BRDs dps will largely only increase across the board. For SUM/BLM, they still have to cast. They'll still be casting their attacks at the same speed, not benefiting from a lower GCD as much as BRD again will. We're all laughing at you because you say you're not asking for a BRD buff but lowering GCD would only buff BRDs for the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elementxstyle View Post
    Why doesn't this community have actual intelligent responses? I'm not actually suggesting that they lower just BARD global cool down - I'm suggesting they lower it across the board. I am just providing perspective from BRD point of view -- this isn't a "Buff BARDs" thread.

    Unless the forum goers here just happen to lack any real reading comprehension?

    A real simple "I don't agree" or opposing view point would suffice instead of this garbage.
    It may feel slow for you but you need to keep in mind that this game was also design for console/gamepad play as well, this is probably the primary reason.
    This also has the effect of promoting a more slower pace and deliberate style of play compared to other MMOs - honestly having to press buttons at quicker intervals may feel better but does it really contribute to gameplay that much?
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