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    Calypsx's Avatar
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    Caly Umbra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoye View Post
    I think it's pretty obvious that with a lower GCD, they'd also have to reduce cast times. Right now though, the combat should be faster and more responsive.

    Animation locks are beyond ridiculous, and combat generally feels like its from a stone age MMO.
    Monks and Dragoons need that time to get into proper position in order to maximize their damage. Do you plan on increasing run speed as well? All this random overhauling for something that isn't even that big of a deal at higher levels.

    You are possibly the best DPS class, there isn't anything left to complain about.

    Also people like the combat, just because you don't doesn't mean it needs to be overhauled. I like my traditional RPGs, I don't enjoy action games. Everyone has different preferences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imoye View Post
    I have to spam instant abilities to get them to actually work.
    Use them in the middle of your GCD, that's when they are able to work. At the 50% point of the GCD is when they can be activated. You can't face roll them in this game.
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    Last edited by Calypsx; 09-24-2013 at 09:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elementxstyle View Post
    Why doesn't this community have actual intelligent responses?
    Because intelligent responses usually only follow intelligent queries.

    Though just to humor you, the reason why we probably won't see something like this has been answered well by many people in the thread already. DRG & MNKs rely on off GCD attacks, and although they are off GCD, they are not instant, they have animations that can push back the next attack. All of DRG's jumps will push back your next attack by around half a second so it already turns it into a 3 sec GCD. Making the GCD shorter will just exacerbate this issue for melee while BRDs dps will largely only increase across the board. For SUM/BLM, they still have to cast. They'll still be casting their attacks at the same speed, not benefiting from a lower GCD as much as BRD again will. We're all laughing at you because you say you're not asking for a BRD buff but lowering GCD would only buff BRDs for the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elementxstyle View Post
    Why doesn't this community have actual intelligent responses? I'm not actually suggesting that they lower just BARD global cool down - I'm suggesting they lower it across the board. I am just providing perspective from BRD point of view -- this isn't a "Buff BARDs" thread.

    Unless the forum goers here just happen to lack any real reading comprehension?

    A real simple "I don't agree" or opposing view point would suffice instead of this garbage.
    It may feel slow for you but you need to keep in mind that this game was also design for console/gamepad play as well, this is probably the primary reason.
    This also has the effect of promoting a more slower pace and deliberate style of play compared to other MMOs - honestly having to press buttons at quicker intervals may feel better but does it really contribute to gameplay that much?
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    they should just give our shots cast times so people would finally stop complaining, and add more songs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonydort View Post
    they should just give our shots cast times so people would finally stop complaining, and add more songs!
    Perhaps the GCD decrease was hasty. Maybe a song that affects Skill Speed? For those moments where every second is crucial?

    I would even wager that a -10% damage is a fair trade off for faster damage. Give up some large over time damage for short, quick bursts. This would be beneficial for all classes in listening distance.
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    Last edited by elementxstyle; 09-24-2013 at 03:16 AM.

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    Baal Mirtaq
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    A lower GCD would hurt melee dps. Mainly DRG is designed to have tons of attacks that he can fire between two GCDs (leg sweep, jump, spineshatter dive, dragon fire dive aso) and to a lesser degree MNK who needs time in between his attacks to go for Rears and Flanks.
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    Been a Bard since the beginning of 1.0 and I personally think it is fine just the way it is. Now the song idea is not bad, I would have to agree on that one.
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    Kenna Silversun
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    If you think Bards are slow, you are clearly not playing it right.
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    Well, combat is crap compared to most other MMOs. Traditional or not. If you're stuck in the past you'll go nowhere.

    It's unresponsive and plagued by animation locks. GCD and cast times aren't even the biggest issues. Can't even imagine PvP with a combat system like this, just not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoye View Post
    Well, combat is crap compared to most other MMOs. Traditional or not. If you're stuck in the past you'll go nowhere.

    It's unresponsive and plagued by animation locks. GCD and cast times aren't even the biggest issues. Can't even imagine PvP with a combat system like this, just not going to happen.
    Here's my thoughts on what you just said. Usually when I don't like a game, I stop playing that game. I recommend you do the same since there are plenty of games out there that you may enjoy.

    Clearly this game isn't for you and there's nothing wrong with that, you just need to move on and continue searching. Not every game is for everyone.
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    Last edited by Calypsx; 09-24-2013 at 10:05 AM.

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