A community worse than WOW's?

[Lenarr]

I'm not quite there yet, but I figure I'll just skip and watch in the Inn later, not worth the headaches of watching while doing the instance. It's not as fun that way, but wth.

[Veurr]

I typically queue with 6-8 people. So sometimes we get CS watcher in our random slot. At this point most of my group is farming Darklight for second jobs so yeah we want to blow through the dungeon. But we always let the folks watch the cutscenes,its simply not fair to ask us to stop killing stuff while you watch. After all needs of the many over the needs of the few and all that. But yeah watch the cutscenes by all means. You don't lose anything by not participating in the trash/bosses.

[Leonas]

So I just turned 50...

Snipped for 1k Character limit.

Honestly, people that Que for Duty Finder for CM/Prae and then complain about people watching cutscenes is like.. is like..

Is like jumping out of a boat in the middle of the ocean and complaining you got wet.

Honestly, if you want fast CM runs for your welfare philo tomes, make a premade party and que for CM/Prae. If you solo que for CM/Prae, expect to be waiting on cutscenes.

[Ruprect]

Unfortunately SE screwed up and made CM the only way for low geared 50 to get better ge4ar in an efficient way. You can do a SR in 25 mins and get 100 tokens. If you have a little better gear you can do AK in 40 mins for 80 token and 40 myth tokens. Once you have 300 Myth tokens you go back to CM. It is unfortunate as the cutscenes really do not take that long. In out runs if we have to pug someone in the DF we let them watch and just kill trash up to boss and then wait for the person at the bosses. If you DF for CM you need to let people watch the cut scenes. There are more than enough CMSR groups spamming on Mor Dhona that you do not need to DF CMSR.

I typically queue with 6-8 people. So sometimes we get CS watcher in our random slot. At this point most of my group is farming Darklight for second jobs so yeah we want to blow through the dungeon. But we always let the folks watch the cutscenes,its simply not fair to ask us to stop killing stuff while you watch. After all needs of the many over the needs of the few and all that. But yeah watch the cutscenes by all means. You don't lose anything by not participating in the trash/bosses.

This annoys me to no end. If you queue for DF you should wait for them at bosses at least. YOU went to DF, when you can very easily just spam on your own server for groups, there is never a shortage of people waiting to go.

[Leiloni]

This annoys me to no end. If you queue for DF you should wait for them at bosses at least. YOU went to DF, when you can very easily just spam on your own server for groups, there is never a shortage of people waiting to go.

After I was tired of waiting on people in DF to watch cutscenes and people dying to stupid stuff and runs of CM always being long and painful, I figured I'd make groups in /shout but those were even worse. The players are even lesser skilled than the ones I find in DF and they always want to go with 1 tank, but that tank never knows how to pull adds off of healers that are standing right next to him, so both of us inevitably die on 2nd boss and after a wipe or two the group disbands. I actually spoke up once while the group was forming and asked for two tanks and when they said no, I politely left and the group leader proceeded to verbally abuse me in whispers.

And you can't even get an Ifrit group in shout cause no one on my server does that, but if you queue for that you only actually succeed maybe half the time because people are bad and there's always the jerk who quits and since we can't requeue for another member, the rest of us are forced to leave. Endgame right now is just a huge waste of time.

And since I had internet issues for 8 days and couldn't play, I'm behind the rest of my guild and we have way more healers than we need anyway and really only have enough active 50's at this point still playing to form 1 8 man group, so I have to pug everything. I have given up on my WHM altogether for the forseeable future and am leveling a Weaver/Botanist. The endgame community is so incredibly awful it's upsetting, the worst I have seen in any game. I would quit but this is the only thing my guildies are really playing together for now until Wildstar comes out.

Edit: Why is my signature not showing up?

[Sinth]

I ask the new players nicely to skip cutscenes and to watch in the Inn. I also inform them that they too will be doing CM 50+ times for their gear so if they simply pay it forward we can all save eachother tons of time.

Say the combined CS time in CM is 5 minutes, multiply that by 50 and you're sitting through nearly 5 hours of people waiting for cutscenes before youre done with CM. Ultimately, it is to the individual's discretion, but I always try to ask nicely.

[MistyMew]

se needs to remove all cs from dungeons, no need for them inside.

upon first opening the dungeon have a cs then to tell the tale and be done with it (mind you make it cool for those that love them)

i havent reached 50 dungeons yet but always skip the cs, not just to keep things moving but im really not interested in them, im there to fight, not watch cs. but having them when i opened the quest to enter sure...i would have sat through them easily

[Raenryong]

If I DF and someone wants to watch the cutscenes, I will accommodate them. It's not worth ruining someone's enjoyment just to cut a run time down by five minutes. If that margin is important enough to me, I will make a premade group for it specifically to avoid that.

As a tank, if someone is attempting to be impertinent and just trying to speed pull the bosses while people are enjoying cutscenes, I will happily let them die.

[bwalker36]

You guys are complaining about the wrong thing. SE made CM the most efficient way to farm Tomestones of Philosphy. The guys farming it are simply being forced to run a boring story dungeon (STORY dungeon) for something they want to gear up for end game on. SE forcibly merged the end gamers with a lot of people who just want to enjoy the story and a lot that are casual gamers. Don't blame the people for this, they are just trying to compete with others.

There is absolutely no reason to use the DF for CM runs. You should sit in RT with the thousands of other people and find a group (quicker than DF if your a dps). If you don't want to wait for people and cut-scenes don't run DF. Now that doesn't excuse square for not spreading out the end game farm enough. 1 dungeon for myth and 2 viable ones for philo is just wrong. They need to have a random selection for 40 myth and 75 philo.

[Gray_Spy]

Yes I did experience it, as I am sure was the case for countless others. However, I wouldn't simply say it's the communities' fault per se. This wouldn't happen if SE hadn't decided to a) make CM a viable source for tomestones and b) make CM a possibly quick way of obtaining them.

I wouldn't call running it for 6 hrs straight a quick way to get a piece of DL Tanking gear..lol.