Quote Originally Posted by Slambo View Post
My people just got their relics last night and a speed run with relics is worlds above a speed run with other gear. You're complaining about people trying to form their own group, which is what all the whiners wanted in the first place... There is no end in sight.
i feel like this keeps getting ignored.

it's not like randoms are queueing up in DF, joining the dungeon, inspecting people and leaving

they're forming a premade to their own standards - isn't this what people keep saying? make your own group with people of a similar mindset?