Are we really gearchecking speedruns for storymode dungeons now?

[Deminia]

wow i go in a group and the tank is in full gathering gear or the healer is in crafting gear when asked do you want to change they say excuse me so yes i think a gear check is needed the group was wiped because people don't know how to gear, and where are all those people who said game was easy before launch ?

i don't think it's elitist to ask somebody to at least be reasonably geared to run even a random duty finder if you feel that is wrong then you are just as bad as those i mentioned and have no respect for others because you think the world revolves around you and thank god for blacklist.

Someone wearing inappropriate gear for their role in the party is a totally different matter from expecting players to have the very best of the best, hardest to obtain gear immediately. I am all for being properly geared, but I don't expect everyone to be able to have premium gear, especially if they are fairly new to the game or their current class/job.

[LunarEmerald]

Complaining about this is stupid.

What's the purpose of a speed run? To be as fast as possible. So of course you'd want gear optimized for speed.

[Yamimarik]

This messed up crap... just happened to me. I was /sh for SCH lfp multi CM/Praet. runs and someone invited me. (Only time I accept blind invites w/o a tell is if I'm /sh.) Well we had just gotten to like 5-6/8 members when I was kicked. I asked the person who invited me "Did you just kick me?" and they said "Yeah sorry 'he' wants relic weapons only...." (idk who "he" was) so I blisted them. I don't have the patience to deal with someone like that. I've been spamming CM/Praet. on my SMN/SCH for a good week or so now. I have lvl 49-50 accs. Full AF(On SCH) Some DL(On SMN) and BOTH Ifrit's Grimiore and Codex for them. I'm not sure how I'd hinder the party at all.... but w/e. Kinda sick of this mentality all together period.

[Govalon]

i clear castrum in 25 mins tops if i pick people from revenants/friends list for the group.

if i duty finder it's 35 minimum.

what will i do with that extra time? well, i'm going to be getting 500 philos every 2 hours instead of 300-400

to me, that's a big deal - not saying it should be a big deal to everyone, but to me a 30+ minute clear of castrum was a waste of my time that could've been better spent elsewhere

And then you are here crying for more content when game has been released one month ago

[MrSmiley]

This messed up crap... just happened to me. I was /sh for SCH lfp multi CM/Praet. runs and someone invited me. (Only time I accept blind invites w/o a tell is if I'm /sh.) Well we had just gotten to like 5-6/8 members when I was kicked. I asked the person who invited me "Did you just kick me?" and they said "Yeah sorry 'he' wants relic weapons only...." (idk who "he" was) so I blisted them. I don't have the patience to deal with someone like that. I've been spamming CM/Praet. on my SMN/SCH for a good week or so now. I have lvl 49-50 accs. Full AF(On SCH) Some DL(On SMN) and BOTH Ifrit's Grimiore and Codex for them. I'm not sure how I'd hinder the party at all.... but w/e. Kinda sick of this mentality all together period.

especially amusing because as a healer even with good gear your damage wouldn't amount to much of anything since your usually healing

[davidbowie]

Someone wearing inappropriate gear for their role in the party is a totally different matter from expecting players to have the very best of the best, hardest to obtain gear immediately. I am all for being properly geared, but I don't expect everyone to be able to have premium gear, especially if they are fairly new to the game or their current class/job.

i agree i don't expect everyone to be high end just at least be in gear that fits the class you are playing nothing more and then we can work from there.

[Vmage]

And then you are here crying for more content when game has been released one month ago

hey, i've got approximately 30k more philos to grind - i'm in no danger of finishing up soon

and honestly, i don't consider AK/CM/praet 'endgame content'

they're the stepping stones to the actual endgame (coil) which i don't recall crying about, here or elsewhere

[CatofNineTails]

lol gear checks for lower dungeons is laughable because the people who insist on them are the ones who suck at the game.

eww so and so has legendary equips they run past all the junk mobs and only fight bosses! how bad ass is that? not at all. why? because they are trying to make the game as easy as is possible by using every possible exploit to not have to do the job properly. DPS meters, this equip over that one, stand in this position only to never have to move or evade, watch 50 videos on exactly how to beat this fight. there is a world of difference between being good at a job and eliminating any difficulties to not have to be good.

the party that beats the exact same boss equipped with the games intended equipment is far better at the game than the group who has over-equipped for the fight to make the fight easy for even the most nominal players. But we do it in ten minutes less w can farm more that way! BS that ten minutes is lost every time your character sits in town showing off how great your gear is while you do NOTHING for hours at a time.

a good tank with appropriate gear (yes being under equipped is no better level 50 with level 30 gear...etc..) will need to do more to keep hate and the healers safe than the one who's over equipped yet they will also learn what works and doesn't work to do the job if things get hairy and be able to use this long afterwards while the player who's always depended on being over equipped will be caught with they're pants down at the first sign of a problem.

and the main reason people up and leave when others don't have "Make it easy" gear on. they simply can't adapt to more than the one way to beat a fight.

[VahnValbosce]

Speedrunners should make their own groups and stay out of the Duty Finder. Problem solved. I mean, do they seriously expect to get a full party of people in full darklight and relic weapons in a PUG? I think I'm going to stop reading the forums for a while, you guys are making me dread end-game. Not because of the content, but because of the players.

This.

Ever since I've hit 50 and started endgame content, It's just been worse and worse and it has nothing to do with the game. It's merely the community that makes up endgame that is depressing and childish to a point that makes me want to just stop playing. There needs to be fixes implemented in order to prevent the community from festering.

@catofninetails we need more people like you to play this game.

[silentwindfr]

personally i have abandonned all content passed ifrit and wanderer's palace... castrum, ak, praetorium,... are simply horrible. is not playing anymore is being efficient is more a work... and i think it's a trouble. can we really enjoy the game like this? i dunno and don't want to enjoy it like this.