Are we really gearchecking speedruns for storymode dungeons now?

[Evilized]

yep, i gear check when putting together speed run groups.

want to know why? because you cant call it a speed run if it isn't fast. it won't be fast if people are wearing trash gear. pretty simple right?

get better gear if you want to speed run, instead of coming to the forums to complain. i'm not going to carry you, sorry.

[CatofNineTails]

i feel like this keeps getting ignored.

it's not like randoms are queueing up in DF, joining the dungeon, inspecting people and leaving

they're forming a premade to their own standards - isn't this what people keep saying? make your own group with people of a similar mindset?

except people are doing exactly that entering DF runs doing a quick gear check and leaving the instances. yes some times its warranted with some players seriously under-equipped but that's only the minority of the time and a far too used excuse to justify it when its not the case.

[Zanther]

If people think that it should be fine that they can run things like HM Titan with lvl 29 accessories and full AF, then it should be fine that somebody wants to run Castrum with full Darklite and relic weapons.

Don't like the group? Don't join the group. MINDBLOWING

Sadly, 90% of the posters will ignore this post.

[Taruranto]

Their group, their rules. They want to be fast and they and they want people with the best gears, nothing wrong with that. Nothing holds you back from doing a run with normal, average-tier gears.

[Oriachim]

If they organise it, fair enough. IF they speed run in DF and expect everyone to abide by their rules, then not fair enough.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

yep, i gear check when putting together speed run groups.

want to know why? because you cant call it a speed run if it isn't fast. it won't be fast if people are wearing trash gear. pretty simple right?

get better gear if you want to speed run, instead of coming to the forums to complain. i'm not going to carry you, sorry.

And everybody already had DL and stuff when they started to speedrun. Right. Also, there're people who ARE playing the dungeon for the first time. It seems that here the term "hardcore" stands for "elitists douchebags" who "doesn't want to help others". I met a lot of people left behind by selfish FC or player groups, and I help them to raid because they lack gear. To those "hardcore-rushy" people, I suggest them to play LoL/DotA or some singleplayer games. Seriously, I'm starting to hate this community...

[Zanther]

And everybody already had DL and stuff when they started to speedrun. Right. Also, there're people who ARE playing the dungeon for the first time. It seems that here the term "hardcore" stands for "elitists douchebags" who "doesn't want to help others". I met a lot of people left behind by selfish FC or player groups, and I help them to raid because they lack gear. To those "hardcore-rushy" people, I suggest them to play LoL/DotA or some singleplayer games. Seriously, I'm starting to hate this community...

You're free to leave at any time.

[Alaray]

If people think that it should be fine that they can run things like HM Titan with lvl 29 accessories and full AF, then it should be fine that somebody wants to run Castrum with full Darklite and relic weapons.

Don't like the group? Don't join the group. MINDBLOWING

Yeaaahhh... but DF doesn't cherry pick if you want a group of non-speed runners, versus speed runners. Even then, if people want to speed run content... isn't it -more- efficient to actually form that speed run group locally, saying it's a speed run group, so as to attract other geared up players looking for fast runs? Rather than end up getting in parties of DF'd, random, players of who-knows what skill level and gearset, and then either forcing them to drop, or dropping yourself (and then waiting out the 15 minute timer, and then a whole new queue...)

Of course, with how the thread is presented, I'm under the presumption this was a DF'd up group and not a locally formed group where the players had intent to speedrun and advertised as such.

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

No, we cant. And the min/max'ers will continue to make sure that we don't enjoy things and be dead serious that we run Castrum in 24 minutes instead of 27 minutes.

Also skippable mobs/content NEEDS to be removed, because people will continue to bicker and complain with eachother when someone accidentally aggros some mobs that could have been avoided, making the dungeon last 45 seconds longer because they have to actually fight something.

Devs posted up in this forum that they plan to address the ability to skip mobs in dungeons as it was not intended to function that way. I need to find the link to the post.

Edit: Found it and posted it as a new post in this thread. Link to my post:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1310382

[Krystal_Storm]

I am fed up with this aswell. I have decided on a new policy for dealing with elitists in which you are welcome to share. If they call you on gear stop, go silent and laugh. After this you are welcome to boycott the match and sit there. They then have 2 choices do it without you or gtfo and suffer a penalty. Yes it is a controversial plan i am sure the elitists will scream holy blue murder but they brought it on themselves for being selfish @$$####$. : D