Summoner and DoTs

[Mindcl0ud]

I don't understand how people think the rotation is boring. I get to a point in my rotation where I'm like, oh thank god I know have a few seconds to just ruin spam...

I think there is a difference between playing a summoner and wanting to min / max as a summoner. I feel like the min/max rotation has me pushing a lot of buttons throughout the fight to keep everything up on the boss, and keep my spells coming. I have to watch stuff still, which to me is better then watching procs, because it's steady DPS for the entire fight, while on the move as well.

[Karnage720]

I don't understand how people think the rotation is boring. I get to a point in my rotation where I'm like, oh thank god I know have a few seconds to just ruin spam...

I think there is a difference between playing a summoner and wanting to min / max as a summoner. I feel like the min/max rotation has me pushing a lot of buttons throughout the fight to keep everything up on the boss, and keep my spells coming. I have to watch stuff still, which to me is better then watching procs, because it's steady DPS for the entire fight, while on the move as well.

Glad you mentioned this. The rotation is FAR from boring if you are playing it right.

[KingBerry]

Right now parser is adding all DoT hence always making smn out dps everyone. I was in titan and I was barely doing anything I wasn't even using my rotation and the parser said I did 75k dmg and the bard did 40k dmg? Clearly something is wrong there.

What needs to happen is smn getting an overhaul this whole DoT thing is so dam boring.

[Kevee]

What needs to happen is smn getting an overhaul this whole DoT thing is so dam boring.

No thanks.

[Namir]

I would say up until my lv thirties or so I did find the rotation a bit boring, but at my current lv (47) I don't find it the least bit boring, if anything I usually get kind of exhausted in long boss fights, from keeping my eye on dot timers, refreshing spur/rouse, when to use virus, eye for an eye and contagion, the occasional back up cure while having to dodge mechanics, and I don't even have shadowflare yet.

[Alhanelem]

There is a bug with parsers, but that doesn't mean SMN is doing the worst damage. All it shows is how bugged the parsers out there are.

anyway, this thread wasn't supposed to be a DPS qq contest, it was supposed to be about the OP wanting to make the job more interesting (in his view).

[pandabearcat]

Shrug, its like a flurry of activity 3 times a minute, then boring spam and dot upkeep after that.

Which I think is a bit silly consider we have lots of dots...but nothing to distinguish our dots from any other dot.

You might as well call them dot 1 dot 2 and dot 3.

Both BLM and ARC interact with their dots more than we do.

[Kevee]

Shrug, its like a flurry of activity 3 times a minute, then boring spam and dot upkeep after that.

Which I think is a bit silly consider we have lots of dots...but nothing to distinguish our dots from any other dot.

You might as well call them dot 1 dot 2 and dot 3.

Both BLM and ARC interact with their dots more than we do.

Keep RNG procs out of SMN.

RNG is bad.

Also, a proc to re-use another ability is hardly "interacting." Sure, it makes the gameplay more "varied" or "spontaneous," but I'd rather just have more abilities in a rotation. Like SMN.

I prefer the more pro-active/dependent things we can do, such as Bane, Fester, and Contagion.

[Belandomolando]

Allow Summoner DoTs to Build a "bank" of accumulated Power that can be dispersed to the Group VIA MP/TP....

Just an idea.

[Katlyna]

I play a Demonology Warlock in WoW.... and Summoners are nothing like Demo Locks.

With that said Summoners make me pretty sad panda. They game play is incredibly stale. I find it difficult to see how anyone would argue how its NOT stale.

With the combo system they have, the black mages feast and famine mana system. The Summoner appears to have been rushed and fallen on its face as it went out the door.