Summoner and DoTs

[pandabearcat]

I'm totally over the argument of more pet focused vs why we have dots, but I wanted to discuss our current mechanics.

Does it strike anyone else as odd that we, being the premier DoT class of FF14, have ZERO interaction with our DoTs? I mean, we have one extension ability (contagion), and one nuke "based" on DoTs (fester...but thats really a stretch...all it requires is the existence of DoTs, not actually interacting with them).

Even Archers, with their DoTs being a tiny part of their dps, have a massively awesome proc off of theirs (River of Blood).

Yet we have...nothing! We are by far the most STATIC and boring rotationwise class of any of the DPS. Our rotation has zero moving parts, and we know EXACTLY what we have to do, and when.

Granted we have quite a few buttons to push but...for a DoT class, you'd think we have something based off of ticks?

For example, maybe each tick (or crit tick) has a chance to make the next Ruin II do double damage?

Or perhaps, like how our pet crits have a chance of making our spell haste go up, our dot ticks (or crits) could make our pet stronger?

Perhaps Ruin could have a small chance (or always) increase our DoTs durations by 1 second?

Perhaps we could have a resource bar that fills up when DoTs tick, increasing the power of ruin, or our pet? Or decreasing the cooldown of aetherflow?

Or perhaps DoT ticks have a chance to restore MP, so we don't run out keeping up Thunder?

I'm looking at WoW warlocks for inspiration (because face it, we ARE quite similar to warlocks), and all 3 specs have either a resource or a proc or both that make the rotation more dynamic.

I'm just surprised there isn't any discussion on this at all.

What are your thoughts?

[savant07]

On the bright side you have the highest DPS in the game :P

But it is true, it is rather dull...

[Akira]

On the bright side you have the highest DPS in the game :P

But it is true, it is rather dull...

how are smns the highest dps in the game? i have smn relic and i dont see it lol

[savant07]

how are smns the highest dps in the game? i have smn relic and i dont see it lol

Aren't they? It's what everyone has been claiming with the new updated parsers. Don't know how accurate those are yet but people are saying they are pretty darn accurate and are putting summoners above everyone else by a good 30-40 DPS.

[Seraphi]

Aren't they? It's what everyone has been claiming with the new updated parsers. Don't know how accurate those are yet but people are saying they are pretty darn accurate and are putting summoners above everyone else by a good 30-40 DPS.

Last I heard, Bio II was being modeled incorrectly by parsers, in turn inflating SMN DPS. I'm not at the level where I've kept up on it, but that was the last thing I heard during all the "no I'm the highest DPS, no I am!" arguments.

[Eckoh]

how are smns the highest dps in the game? i have smn relic and i dont see it lol

they are the only thing that can out DPS the top end bards. That is why we used 2 summoners 2 bards for turn 4 in my guild and we killed it 2 minutes faster then the other guilds video showed them doing it in.

[ReverendBaka]

they are the only thing that can out DPS the top end bards. That is why we used 2 summoners 2 bards for turn 4 in my guild and we killed it 2 minutes faster then the other guilds video showed them doing it in.

<3 you too, Eckoh.

On the mana thing above: in a single target fight you should not run into mana problems. In an add-based fight where you have to reapply DoTs a lot you are going to have to use Energy Drain with up to 1/3 of your Aetherflow stacks. If Aetherflow bugs you are going to run out of mana and there isn't anything you can really do about it (happens to me sometimes).

[savant07]

they are the only thing that can out DPS the top end bards. That is why we used 2 summoners 2 bards for turn 4 in my guild and we killed it 2 minutes faster then the other guilds video showed them doing it in.

Why not...FOUR SUMMONERS! Kill everything before your healer ever need healing

[Arcana]

how are smns the highest dps in the game? i have smn relic and i dont see it lol

Numbers says it, not me... For example, im not lucky with the Ifrit Grimoire and i can do with the correct rotation more damage (me + garuda) (in single boss) than any other class with the ifrit weapon. At least that says the parser :/

[savant07]

Numbers says it, not me... For example, im not lucky with the Ifrit Grimoire and i can do with the correct rotation more damage (me + garuda) (in single boss) than any other class with the ifrit weapon. At least that says the parser :/

Again parsers. Summoners swear by it and say it's accurate enough and has fixed DoTs. Other says it's bugged. WTB official parser...