Feature Request: First Time Visit = No Map.

[Cairdeas]

:/ Guys the whole purpose of this request was to Fog of War maps for INSTANCED DUNGEONS. The stuff we should be getting in 1.18. Not all maps throughout the game.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

:/ Guys the whole purpose of this request was to Fog of War maps for INSTANCED DUNGEONS. The stuff we should be getting in 1.18. Not all maps throughout the game.

still a "pointlessly hard" request though. People can get lost pretty easy and then some if not all the "hardcore" will just look up ffxiv on wiki to get the map and print it out. My ex b/f had a book of all the maps he printed out for both WoW abd ffxi. And we still got lost and died alot.

Also yes you can get lost in Eorzea, I've done it. The maps are vague and sometimes a pathway isn't the a pathway.

[JackDaniels]

still a "pointlessly hard" request though. People can get lost pretty easy and then some if not all the "hardcore" will just look up ffxiv on wiki to get the map and print it out.

Pretty much this. Anything that makes a wiki redundant is good.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Pretty much this. Anything that makes a wiki redundant is good.

every hardcore person I knew did it, which was over 300 ppl. (3 huge LS's)

[Sirtis]

Pretty much this. Anything that makes a wiki redundant is good.

I whole heartily agree. There are many features which would make the map superb and I am praying to Halone to smite those opposed. Such as map markers, removing the map overlay and put it into its own standalone widget, etc.

From what I can see, with the inclusion of the Lodestone History, it would be quite possible and even planned to include an achievement type of system, which could also fit into the same panel as a suggested Bestiary (which may / hopefully link to and display areas on the map).

every hardcore person I knew did it, which was over 300 ppl. (3 huge LS's)

I guess having a mental map does not count for much. Even though I will admit I only played FFXI for about a total of 3-4 weeks, I still have mental maps of the zones I visited. More than anything else, I must question the purpose of the maps. For the world seems a bit much, for specifically confusing zones perhaps. I can't wonder around Gridania without assistance, as I can't see at dark.. in the rain.

[DeadRiser]

still a "pointlessly hard" request though. People can get lost pretty easy and then some if not all the "hardcore" will just look up ffxiv on wiki to get the map and print it out. My ex b/f had a book of all the maps he printed out for both WoW abd ffxi. And we still got lost and died alot.

Also yes you can get lost in Eorzea, I've done it. The maps are vague and sometimes a pathway isn't the a pathway.

Who cares? It's still fun to get lost sometimes. Doesn't mean I'm gonna pansy out and look for a map online. This game needs some type of wonder and adventure to it, and people are just going against it.

[Xenor]

Who cares? It's still fun to get lost sometimes. Doesn't mean I'm gonna pansy out and look for a map online. This game needs some type of wonder and adventure to it, and people are just going against it.

You have to remember that the majority of these forums are easy mode gamers who want everything handed to them on a silver platter. Most of the threads on here follow that format and it's why FFXIV is the easiest MMO on the market. Unfortunately that's just as off putting as a game that sucks.

[Teknoman]

:/ Guys the whole purpose of this request was to Fog of War maps for INSTANCED DUNGEONS. The stuff we should be getting in 1.18. Not all maps throughout the game.

In that case I agree. I think some got off topic because they just saw the title of the post and went from there.

[Cairdeas]

In that case I agree. I think some got off topic because they just saw the title of the post and went from there.

More like they didn't read the first post. No one does anymore.

This is probably the most "Hardcore" Friendly Idea I've had.

One of the biggest thrills I had in XI was exploring a new place before having the map for it. Exploring new areas released in Expansions before anyone had the maps up was thrilling.

Right now though all the areas in XIV come with maps already explored for you. This is kinda boring. So I'd like to propose that any instanced Dungeon has Fog of War on its map the first time you play through. Just for the sake of feeling like "This is the first time this place has been explored.". After that the maps always open to you when you re-visit the instanced dungeon.

[Sirtis]

More like they didn't read the first post. No one does anymore.

This is probably the most "Hardcore" Friendly Idea I've had.

One of the biggest thrills I had in XI was exploring a new place before having the map for it. Exploring new areas released in Expansions before anyone had the maps up was thrilling.

Okay, in the vein of only dungeon maps, there already is what is effectively fog of war, at least by RTS standards. What I mean is that you can not see beyond the scope of the minimap the locations of the enemies and what not. What I understand of what is being proposed, is that the maps for the dungeons have a black fog covering everywhere that is not on the minimap. This would be effectively the same as disabling the map and only having the minimap. Now it could be different if the region shown on the minimap is smaller than the area shown on the complete map.

Now there is a second idea in this which ties into the limited view. You want the game to track which areas you have been to and only show those on the minimap. That is quite feasible as it can be done purely on the client side, but that does open up the chance for map-hack programs. SE does not seem to like the client side to control anything, unless they are having a change of heart in effort to relieve network traffic. WoW for example leaves movement up to the client. Guild Wars does/did not (causes Rubber-banding).

I suppose if SE really did not care, but liked the thought of the feature, they could have a toggle in game for the feature. That way they wouldn't have to worry about map hacks. Or hide the maps better than what I have seen.