Are static groups simply the now accepted reality for endgame progression?

[AdvancedWind]

People really don't get what OP's issue is.

It's not "The content is too hard". Neither "I can't DF it", nor "I want to put anyone in my PT and do it." His issue is that, right now, you can't do anything of the following:


"I want to practice / run specifically turn 1. No need for loot, exp, mytho, anything!"

You can't do this unless you purposedly wipe whenever you might win.


"One of my static members can't login today. I want to get a replacement without locking him out of earlier turns."

You can't. Either you don't run it, or you find someone who doesn't mind being locked out of earlier turns.

"It's Saturday. I want to do a fun FC wide event where we just gather people around to do Coil."

Well, you sort of can. Just hope enjoy doing turn 5 (and locking people out of earlier turns) with people that are still struggling to do T2, for example, with no chance to actually to do the proper turn for them and help them with anything. Have fun!


"I can't play at the same times every day, so it will be very hard to find 7 other people who can always play at the same time as me and form a static."

Enjoy never doing any decent progress on Coil ever, regardless of your skill / FC availability.

No one is saying static parties are a bad thing. It isn't. But Coil specifically forces you to static it and punishes you and whoever you want to play with if you ever try to bring someone not on your static for any reason at all.


Personally, I believe that just changing the party turn to the PT leader and locking people who beat a turn to get loot from it would help a lot, without it affecting the difficulty of it at all.

[Murugan]

People really don't get what OP's issue is.

It's not "The content is too hard". Neither "I can't DF it", nor "I want to put anyone in my PT and do it." His issue is that, right now, you can't do anything of the following:

"I want to practice / run specifically turn 1. No need for loot, exp, mytho, anything!"

You can't do this unless you purposedly wipe whenever you might win.


"One of my static members can't login today. I want to get a replacement without locking him out of earlier turns."

You can't. Either you don't run it, or you find someone who doesn't mind being locked out of earlier turns.

"It's Saturday. I want to do a fun FC wide event where we just gather people around to do Coil."

Well, you sort of can. Just hope enjoy doing turn 5 (and locking people out of earlier turns) with people that are still struggling to do T2, for example, with no chance to actually to do the proper turn for them and help them with anything. Have fun!


"I can't play at the same times every day, so it will be very hard to find 7 other people who can always play at the same time as me and form a static."

Enjoy never doing any decent progress on Coil ever, regardless of your skill / FC availability.

No one is saying static parties are a bad thing. It isn't. But Coil specifically forces you to static it and punishes you and whoever you want to play with if you ever try to bring someone not on your static for any reason at all.


Personally, I believe that just changing the party turn to the PT leader and locking people who beat a turn to get loot from it would help a lot, without it affecting the difficulty of it at all.

Exactly, as far as I'm concerned they should make it far more difficult and time consuming, just ease up on some of the restrictions for who we can play with.

I want to do events with my FC where I can freely choose who I want to play with (even if you DID limit my loot somehow), not be forced into a static because the design of this content pushes it on you.

Also people keep bringing up statics in FFXI, I'm sorry but that was far from the case most HNM weren't even player capped. You were rarely forced into single group statics for endgame progression, that is simply a problem for communities that want to change who they play with within that community from day to day.