Are static groups simply the now accepted reality for endgame progression?

[Lucroarna]

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Again, you entirely miss the point and go back to your single argument. Please use your brain and not your anger. The Dark side is bad, mmk?

Anyways, when you have 50+ people who are good players, and have known each other for many years, it's very easy to set up multiple runs on the same night. We had 4 groups of 10 doing Karazhan once a week in The Burning Crusade in World of Warcraft. Each group went into a separate channel on vent, and it worked just fine.

Clearly you are probably a victim of a guild/fc/ls that was heavy on favoritism, but unfortunately for you, and your argument, not every guild/ls/fc is led by people who are like this. You cannot create stereotypes based on a single isolated incident. It's important to remember you are not the only person on the planet, and just because your experience has been negative, it does not mean everyone's has.

w ok?

[Mishakai]

Sounds like content that is meant to be cleared weekly by Free Companies. Don't see what the big deal is. Clear it once a week with your FC. If your FC is big enough, they can work on it nightly and replace people who can't make it that night with people who can.

I find it amazing how far people go out of their way to avoid properly socializing in an MMO.

[Deceptistar]

Sounds like content that is meant to be cleared weekly by Free Companies. Don't see what the big deal is. Clear it once a week with your FC. If your FC is big enough, they can work on it nightly and replace people who can't make it that night with people who can.

I find it amazing how far people go out of their way to avoid properly socializing in an MMO.

i dont think you understood what the OP said.

[Jynx]

Like I said I'm all for making sure the duty finder gathers dust a few months into the game. I am however against being able to play with anyone on your server in all the content that they have access too.

But I also sort of understand where they are coming from, the thing has it's ups and downs but overall I'm happy because anything that discourages the duty finder gets a A+ in my book.

[Kyouko]

Would rather have a roster, sometimes people can't be available

[Jynx]

Let's get this straight a free company CAN still progress together through content, the way it works now just means key members wont be able to go back and limp strugling players through to the higher teirs.

Or on a less pessimistic note.

The one guy who tanks for your free company wont have to run the same damn turn 50 times in one night to progress the DD heavy community, likewise with healers. If anything this is another move by SE to encourage people to play something other than DD, less tanks means less abillity to progress I'm sure a few guys will take up the healers wand or tanks shield just so they don't have to stand in line with 50 other guys waiting for a tank to show up.

It's a smart if not a tad mean of a move, again I see where SE is coming from but I'd just rather a bit more freedom with who/when I play.

[Lucroarna]

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If you actually only have 1 tank in your FC that is your problem. The point of FF11 and FF14 is the ability to play many roles. Encourage your team to level other jobs, and this issue is gone entirely.

[SpiritLeova]

all i got to say is: WHAT IT DO!?

[Zane]

Apologies in advance for not reading the entire thread but...

To me, it seems like this entire issue could be solved in a very straightforward manner if the Development team were to introduce this measure:

You can only be eligible to lot on a particular boss's drops once per week. This way, guild members can go back and help their other guild members without getting a second crack at loot. This will make it much more PUGable, since you could technically join a group that's further behind if you had confidence they would go all the way. Finally, an entire guild won't find themselves suddenly stuck if a RL emergency claimed a member away from the game for an extended period of time.

Or am I missing something?

[Murugan]

Apologies in advance for not reading the entire thread but...

To me, it seems like this entire issue could be solved in a very straightforward manner if the Development team were to introduce this measure:

You can only be eligible to lot on a particular boss's drops once per week. This way, guild members can go back and help their other guild members without getting a second crack at loot. This will make it much more PUGable, since you could technically join a group that's further behind if you had confidence they would go all the way. Finally, an entire guild won't find themselves suddenly stuck if a RL emergency claimed a member away from the game for an extended period of time.

Or am I missing something?

Yes you are missing Lucroarna's point that we should all should simply accept not being able to play with more than 7 other people per week in endgame content, and that if this is a problem for us then obviously we are terrible people.

I mean friends come in precise groups of eight, everyone knows this. Why would anyone want to play with anyone else ever, they wouldn't, it's perfect, learn to play WoW!