Any word on if and when SE will do something about the hackers rampant in the world?

[darkm0d]

Botting =/= "hacking".

edit: I guess I should also say cheating =/= hacking. Some could argue that though, I suppose.

[Matthew_John]

Botting =/= "hacking".

If you are teleporting node to node while running a botting program...then yes botting=hacking.

[Cienna]

Well, supposedly they will be going after exploiters of Chimera and Hydra as announced on Lodestone today. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...f3bbf3f197a43d

They mention in that post using Game Logs to see who cheated, so keep reporting Hackers and Bots, then they can check the logs and take action- hopefully.

[Zakalwe]

Botting =/= "hacking".

In this case it is. My understanding is the hack the game to mine inside the geography plus hack teleport points.

[Ruethryl]

Botting =/= "hacking".

Teleporting node to node = hacking/cheating whether they're botting or not.

FFXI had a similar problem early on from the servers trusting whatever the client sent them for position data :|

[Anderian]

Botting =/= "hacking".

Why is there always at least one person in hacking threads flat out making excuses for hacking? In this case, they are both hacking AND botting, and even if they would be doing only one of those things it would still be a bannable offense, so what is your point exactly?

[darkm0d]

Why is there always at least one person in hacking threads flat out making excuses for hacking? In this case, they are both hacking AND botting, and even if they would be doing only one of those things it would still be a bannable offense, so what is your point exactly?

It's just poor phrasing. I guess overtime hacking has gotten a lot more of a loose usage, but it should mean breaking into a computer system. It's an IT industry related word. If I spawned in ARR with a bazooka I wouldn't be "hacking" I would be "cheating".

They (the bots) are probably just using a program that exploits certain designs in the game. To me, at least, and most definitions, hacking is the virtual equivalent to breaking into your house, not being able to breathe in space.

[Tezeret]

It's just poor phrasing. I guess overtime hacking has gotten a lot more of a loose usage, but it should mean breaking into a computer system. It's an IT industry related word. If I spawned in ARR with a bazooka I wouldn't be "hacking" I would be "cheating".

Eitherway...you are still wrong.


It IS hacking. Its a downloadable third party program that hacks the client to give false positioning information back to the server to teleport to nodes. no walking. Characters can NOT teleport to nodes using traditional bots. Bots are usually third party macro programs that record keystrokes or mouse movements. This is a HACK because it actually changes client and server data to meet a pre determined goal. in this case positioning of the character.


The character THEN uses BOTS to script his mining behaviour to target specific gathering attempts.

So in essence it is both...and in violation of the games terms.

[Mordermi]

Eitherway...you are still wrong.


It IS hacking. Its a downloadable third party program that hacks the client to give false positioning information back to the server to teleport to nodes. no walking. Characters can NOT teleport to nodes using traditional bots. Bots are usually third party macro programs that record keystrokes or mouse movements. This is a HACK because it actually changes client and server data to meet a pre determined goal. in this case positioning of the character.


The character THEN uses BOTS to script his mining behaviour to target specific gathering attempts.

So in essence it is both...and in violation of the games terms.

Agreed. It is hacking. Hacking is not just breaking into someone's computer.