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    Thanks. Can you provide the skill damage breakdown if you don't mind ?
    Also how much damage does your total DoTs tick at on the screen ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thotor View Post
    Thanks. Can you provide the skill damage breakdown if you don't mind ?
    Also how much damage does your total DoTs tick at on the screen ?
    http://i.imgur.com/1S197gp.jpg

    Breakdown from the last one.

    ~320-330.

    ~390 from Raging Strikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/1S197gp.jpg

    Breakdown from the last one.

    ~320-330.

    ~390 from Raging Strikes.
    Bio with 670 DoT avg, there is your culprit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thotor View Post
    Bio with 670 DoT avg, there is your culprit.
    I would be doing more than that DPS if Bio and Bio II were doing that damage.

    But, again. I made no judgement on those parses and was only posting what was asked.


    Case in point: If Bio II averaged 187, and Bio averaged 671, that would mean 286 DPS from them alone.

    So you're saying that 286 out of 295 DPS was those 2 skills? It seems like the dps was generally "correct" but the breakdown is awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/1S197gp.jpg

    Breakdown from the last one.

    ~320-330.

    ~390 from Raging Strikes.
    Stop me If I say something wrong.
    Using the DPS and total damage, we can conclude the fight lasted 150 seconds
    Using the DoT tick you got in game, let's say you do 350 DoT every 3 seconds (they tick every 3 seconds, right ?).
    So that's 350 * 50 = 17 500 DoT total.
    The parser shows 32 821 DoT Total.

    Now if take we replace that DoT total with our theoretical DoT Total , we have :
    29216 Total damage on 150 seconds = 194 DPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thotor View Post
    Stop me If I say something wrong.
    Using the DPS and total damage, we can conclude the fight lasted 150 seconds
    Using the DoT tick you got in game, let's say you do 350 DoT every 3 seconds (they tick every 3 seconds, right ?).
    So that's 350 * 50 = 17 500 DoT total.
    The parser shows 32 821 DoT Total.

    Now if take we replace that DoT total with our theoretical DoT Total , we have :
    29216 Total damage on 150 seconds = 194 DPS

    If we assume the parser is right for Garuda, Ruin, Ruin II, and Fester(and why wouldn't it be? Those are all logged in the log), then you can add ~160 DPS. ~60 DPS from Garuda, ~100 from Ruin/Ruin II/Fester.

    Which would fall in line with the parses DPS, but not the breakdown. Especially since in the 150 seconds Ruin/Ruin II/Fester do less total DPS because that 295 parse was after I ran out and let the DoTs bleed out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    If we assume the parser is right for Garuda, Ruin, Ruin II, and Fester(and why wouldn't it be? Those are all logged in the log), then you can add ~160 DPS. ~60 DPS from Garuda, ~100 from Ruin/Ruin II/Fester.

    Which would fall in line with the parses DPS, but not the breakdown. Especially since in the 150 seconds Ruin/Ruin II/Fester do less total DPS because that 295 parse was after I ran out and let the DoTs bleed out.
    I think she added those in as well...I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    If we assume the parser is right for Garuda, Ruin, Ruin II, and Fester(and why wouldn't it be? Those are all logged in the log), then you can add ~160 DPS. ~60 DPS from Garuda, ~100 from Ruin/Ruin II/Fester.

    Which would fall in line with the parses DPS, but not the breakdown. Especially since in the 150 seconds Ruin/Ruin II/Fester do less total DPS because that 295 parse was after I ran out and let the DoTs bleed out.
    Those were already added. Only Garuda was left out. That's 67 dps more.
    However do not forget those are theoretical numbers were i used a base tick damage at 350 which in reality will be lower than that.

    Either way , I do not count that theoretical dps as anything to be used but only to prove that parser, even on a dummy, is broken and does not reflect your real dps.
    Getting your real dps would require a deeper theorycraft. All you can assume is that your DPS right now is at maximum 261 dps (counting pet)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thotor View Post
    Those were already added. Only Garuda was left out. That's 67 dps more.
    However do not forget those are theoretical numbers were i used a base tick damage at 350 which in reality will be lower than that.

    Either way , I do not count that theoretical dps as anything to be used but only to prove that parser, even on a dummy, is broken and does not reflect your real dps.
    Getting your real dps would require a deeper theorycraft. All you can assume is that your DPS right now is at maximum 261 dps (counting pet)
    You didn't include crits in your DoT ticks, nor the uptime/trick on Raging Strikes DoTs.

    With Raging Strikes I was getting some crits of over 500 every 3 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    You didn't include crits in your DoT ticks, nor the uptime/trick on Raging Strikes DoTs.

    With Raging Strikes I was getting some crits of over 500 every 3 seconds.
    That's why I used a 350 tick to count Raging Strikes. However that number is a bit high because Raging strikes is only applied on 1 rotation of DoTs. The real number would be close to 330-340 avg tick damage.
    On top of that, I did assume your DoTs would always be in effects but in reality it is likely that some of them would not be on at all time.

    As for critical, it was left out because parser do not take them and my point was just to prove the DPS shown by parser is wrong.
    Critical hits from DoTs, based on a 10% crit which seems the avg for SMN, would result in a 3.33% increase in your dps/total dmg.
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    Last edited by Thotor; 09-20-2013 at 12:36 AM.