Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[CursedCoffee]

Hmmm, I've done titan well over 100 times and I've died a total of maybe 3 or 4 times? A couple of those were also due to bad meteor timing on my part.

That being said, maybe you should just...play better? >.>;

I really hope this game doesn't succumb to the crying of the forums. I will be highly disappointed if this simply becomes FFXIV; World of Warcraft edition. The current end game content almost demands perfect play, and that's the way it should be.

[complexxL9]

Hmmm, I've done titan well over 100 times and I've died a total of maybe 3 or 4 times? A couple of those were also due to bad meteor timing on my part.

That being said, maybe you should just...play better? >.>;

I really hope this game doesn't succumb to the crying of the forums. I will be highly disappointed if this simply becomes FFXIV; World of Warcraft edition. The current end game content almost demands perfect play, and that's the way it should be.

“Confidence is ignorance. If you're feeling cocky, it's because there's something you don't know.”
― Eoin Colfer, Artemis Fowl

[Silverwalk]

(Sprint)

/10char

I was making a silly post - because the post I was replying to was silly

I mean use the enemy cast bar to determine the cast time - ya think? Get out faster and you won't get hit - really?

Thank you Captain Obvious, have a nice day!

Hmmm, I've done titan well over 100 times and I've died a total of maybe 3 or 4 times? A couple of those were also due to bad meteor timing on my part.

That being said, maybe you should just...play better? >.>;

I really hope this game doesn't succumb to the crying of the forums. I will be highly disappointed if this simply becomes FFXIV; World of Warcraft edition. The current end game content almost demands perfect play, and that's the way it should be.

Please help us. Go to an interaction object and run fraps or something similar. Now right click the interaction object and wait for the interaction bar to start.

Put the video up for us to see and show us that the server lag does not affect you. We can also let the developers know because they are under the mistaken impression that it is their software.

If you do that and prove us all wrong then I will happily admit it. I've made plenty of mistakes in my life and I could be completely wrong about this problem.

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

Wow that first video is bad lag, really bad, that is just not fair. The second one, is normal, you hesitated there for a second and that got you in the end. I know, the timing is a bitch, you have to move the instant the plumes appear and not stop.

I have run this fight many times, me and my FC do it pretty much daily with no problems since we are "trained" now. BUT having said that, i do agree that the timing you need is borderline unfair. It's extremely hard to dodge all the plumes, bombs or landslides even on a relatively fast connection (105ms ping here) i get caught in the odd plume or what i have most problems with, the bombs.

I think a slight tuning giving it half a second more to dodge would not hurt the fight at all and maybe give people with worse connections a chance.

[Silverwalk]

Wow that first video is bad lag, really bad, that is just not fair. The second one, is normal, you hesitated there for a second and that got you in the end. I know, the timing is a bitch, you have to move the instant the plumes appear and not stop.

I have run this fight many times, me and my FC do it pretty much daily with no problems since we are "trained" now. BUT having said that, i do agree that the timing you need is borderline unfair. It's extremely hard to dodge all the plumes, bombs or landslides even on a relatively fast connection (105ms ping here) i get caught in the odd plume or what i have most problems with, the bombs.

I think a slight tuning giving it half a second more to dodge would not hurt the fight at all and maybe give people with worse connections a chance.

I don't think they need to add more time, they just need the client to send a position update when you clear the aoe.

Having said that there is an interesting point here. These encounter's are designed and tested in Japan with maybe 20-30ms ping time (guessing). After all the server lag is taken into account they allow a certain amount of time for the player to react.

If they allow 400ms to react that seems pretty good. Human reaction time is around 200ms so that's double what most people need. So they allow 200ms of extra time, sounds pretty good.

So now someone playing with 100ms ping time will have the allowed time reduced to 320ms minus human reaction time leaving 120ms of extra time. That's nearly half what they had in Japan.

At 200ms ping time the allowed reaction is now 220ms, minus human reaction time leaves 20ms of extra time.

Over 200ms ping and you now have to react faster than the normal human reaction time. Houston I think we may have a problem.

edit: the point I'm making here is that making an encounter "hard" by testing the player's reaction time can't work when player's have different ping times.

The game should be testing that you know what to do, not that you can react at super-human speeds (when your ping time goes over 200ms).

[reality_check]

The second one, is normal, you hesitated there for a second and that got you in the end. I know, the timing is a bitch, you have to move the instant the plumes appear and not stop.

There was a slight hesitation in his movement; however, it does show how out of sync the game is. He could have reacted faster but there is absolutely no reason why his death should happen SO far away from the AoE. If you get hit by AoE you should die in the AoE. Not after running 10 yalms and then the client being told you got hit.

[Sublimeprince]

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[shinkicker]

Where do you see your ping btw? I know where the 'traffic' meter is, but that doesn't really tell me what I want to know since it fluctuates all over the shop.

[TheRac25]

Human reaction time is around 200ms

yeah maybe if youre a pro drag racer lol

[Silverwalk]

Where do you see your ping btw? I know where the 'traffic' meter is, but that doesn't really tell me what I want to know since it fluctuates all over the shop.

In Windows 7 right click the task bar at the bottom, select Start Task Manager

In the Performance tab click the Resource Monitor button.

In the resource monitor select the Network tab

Look for ffxiv in the TCP connections list

The Latency column shows the ping time

yeah maybe if youre a pro drag racer lol

hehehe so true.