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    Astrid Merle
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    the one where part of your heals can be put on before damage is even taken... and your fairy healing. You just go from thread to thread QQing. It's obvious what the problem is.
    Nice job on completely omitting, and dodging the question.

    Tell me, in what universe does a 150 heal potency shield + 10% aoe damage mitigation compare to being able to heal up 100% more aoe damage in the same window of time with 50% less MP? This is what happens when succor is your only reliable source of AOE healing.
    Care to answer that?

    WHM can't shield. They are healers, they can both heal.. this is a typical argument by someone wanting to be a special snowflake. Well you aren't and won't be, you are unique enough- you shouldn't be NEEDED, no one should be. This exposes your true desire to be REQUIRED or OP.
    That qualifies as double standard coming from you considering I have yet to see anyone assert that WHM aren't required for anything sporting AOE damage around HM titan level.

    Your video doesn't conflict with my point at all. They still have a WHM, and the use of 3 healers to counter the damage when SE's ideal group is 2 tanks, 2 healers, and 4 DDs, so that qualifies for 'healer stacking' which only serves to blur any issues the healers have. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that healing on that fight would be even easier/less risky with less SCHs, and more WHMs. Congrats on posting a video that proved... nothing.

    That shield doesn't make or break fights. Having strong AOE healing does.
    You don't need a shield, but you do (and will need in the future unless SE stops making fights with tons of AOE damage) strong AOE healing.

    Half the time, and MP spent healing the group=less risk. This is a reason why a WHM is necessary. This is before we even consider the regen stacking they're capable of, while talk of the modest buffing of succor/giving SCH's medica, and having pet control options that make sense would magically make SCH's broken to you?

    What makes a SCH unique isn't necessary with their current values. For example, in order for sacred soil to be worth one tick of regen on each person, people need to get hit by an attack that deals ~2k damage while standing in it, mitigating a wopping 200 damage per person. That is a 30 second cooldown tied to atherflow (so that's one less lustrate), that lasts 10 seconds. Succor is similar in the fact that it gets outdone by HOTs alone; its shield potency is equal to a 150 potency heal.

    This is before we even count the direct AOE heals. The shielding, damage mitigation, and AOE healing just doesn't compare. Besides lustrate and the fairy allowing me to multitask a little, SCH's don't really have much over WHMs. The addition of a 300 potency AOE heal won't completely tip the balance in favor of SCH's, but it would make them less of a liability in AOE heavy phases. Buffing sacred soil, or succor's absorb effects to meaningful levels could also work if SE wants to keep uniqueness...

    Trust me, I want to say SCH's have better single target sustained healing, but that's something either healer can do just fine, and I keep remembering WHM's regen stacking ...

    With an MMO like this, it's a matter of time before we get more fights with more burst AOE damage just like titan HM.

    Please, just be honest and ask for what you really want- You want to be required for raids, so that people HAVE to take you- you want to be OP to make up for your problems
    That sounds like you're describing WHM, since I have yet to see anyone assert that you can do anything remotely challenging without a WHM.

    ... you obviously aren't succeeding based on your playing.
    And you aren't succeeding at proving a point using numbers, while glossing over your experience in a 2 sentence summary, while trying to ride the coattails of videos made by people who aren't you, and throwing around baseless insults at my ability to play when we're not even on the same server, while I have yet to do that to you. You're just plain rude now.
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    Last edited by fanservice; 09-18-2013 at 04:02 AM.