Heals for Scholors need a buff

[Valiant]

The scholar is not currently balanced for the high big damage fights. You think scholar is balanced because a WHM doesn't out heal you in Ifrit... I don't even bother healing in Ifrit no one takes enough damage to warrant two healers come back and speak to me once you've been told to GTFO from Titan because of your class.

We don't need a buff just some small alterations that make us a viable option.

i must agree on Excalibur i see alot of shouts for some bosses for 2 WHMs

[Valiant]

I'm pretty sure it's Steady, not Obey. The thing is you have to put her back on Steady after you use an ability, because it flips her switch to active.

Regardless, those are pet control problems. That should be your focus.

i hate using WoW all the time but they have far greater pet AI and control than FF atm... first off i can play ring around the faerie/egi, where as a hunter or locks pet in WoW will ALWAYS stick to one side of me and move with me UNLESS otherwise commanded. I shouldn't have to reclick steady or obey after each spell use... its a perfectly good waste of time... Same goes for healing... I should just be allowed to control that from the ESC menu so I dont ever have to touch it in battle.

[Valiant]

Cure 2 potency is 650 I think, while adlo is 600 - 300 heal/300 shield. (Shield doesn't overheal and SCH have more mana)

You are comparing apples to oranges.

. You can't pick and choose where you want to compare and ignore the rest of the toolbox.

What you're also forgetting is having 2 WHMs ins a group you have 4 regens... 2 medica II's and 2 regens... and on excalibur all i see are shouts for 2 WHMS... only time i see SCH asked for is if they can't find a second WHM.. WHM regen is overpowered at the moment and the aldo shield is only worth it if it crits so he really isnt comparing apples to oranges hes comparing the definates of each class not the possibilites which SCH has alot of if they have a high enough crit chance which most dont seem to have

[EmeraldSerenade]

I've been doing Titan for a few days, and it's pretty apparent that I'm unwanted. Doesn't matter how well I do, I just can't compete with Medica/Regen. Sure, I gain MP like a beast, but what's the point in having so much mana when I have to cast a high MP spell over and over for it to be noticeable?

And lets talk about Sacred Soil. Sacred Soil should -not- take Aetherflow stacks. Put it on a 30 Sec CD. I need those stacks for Lustrate / Energy Drain.

Ohh, and our pets pretty trashy right now. Long CDs, uses those CDs at-will, I have to keep it healed, and it's heal range is way too short.

I love Scholar, but the only thing we have going for us right now is Haste (which isn't used for Titan) and our MP gain (which doesn't save people from stomps)

What I would like to see:
-Succor buff. ( That doesn't revolve around Aetherflow)
-Sacred Soil removed from Aetherflow
-More Aetherflow stacks (Maybe tone down Energy Drain for this)
-Fairy buff with a smarter Ai.
-Something similar to regen. (Maybe a HoT that you can place on the ground?)

Right now we don't heal for very much, and we're way too reliant on Aetherflow, and when we're out of stacks, what abilities we can use are very limited. (Leaches, Psysick, and Succor. Personally I don't think Adloquium's that great.)

[ApolloGenX]

What you're also forgetting is having 2 WHMs ins a group you have 4 regens... 2 medica II's and 2 regens... and on excalibur all i see are shouts for 2 WHMS... only time i see SCH asked for is if they can't find a second WHM.. WHM regen is overpowered at the moment and the aldo shield is only worth it if it crits so he really isnt comparing apples to oranges hes comparing the definates of each class not the possibilites which SCH has alot of if they have a high enough crit chance which most dont seem to have

Interesting, because when I did Titan, it was with 1 of each and I am not seeing high end guilds on our server take 2 whms, I am seeing 1 of each for primals and coil. Maybe PUGs on your server are trying some strange strategy. I am not doubitng whaat you say, but it is highly anecdotal, just like what I have seen. Maybe SE has more info.

[ApolloGenX]

What I would like to see:
-Succor buff. ( That doesn't revolve around Aetherflow)
-Sacred Soil removed from Aetherflow
-More Aetherflow stacks (Maybe tone down Energy Drain for this)
-Fairy buff with a smarter Ai.
-Something similar to regen. (Maybe a HoT that you can place on the ground?)

Right now we don't heal for very much, and we're way too reliant on Aetherflow, and when we're out of stacks, what abilities we can use are very limited. (Leaches, Psysick, and Succor. Personally I don't think Adloquium's that great.)

Heals are lower, because you shield. If you want those improvements, be prepared to lose shielding on those heals you want buffed and if you want regen, be prepared to trade shields for it.... or you could just play a whm.

[Cannings]

Part 1
To be honest i've read through a few posts on here not all of them but I think a lot of people need to practice and refine their play on SCH.

So far I have healed all HM Primals and have reached turn 4 in coil, all these have been done with a WHM as the other healer for our FC.

According to parses my healing has been on par if not slightly behind his but only by a maximum of 5-10 hps then my pet has been healing a further 150-200k on top of what I have healed. I position my pet to do the majority of raid healing so that I can focus on the tank, I primarily spam physik as we can spam this spell non stop with 0 mana worries. I usually save my Aetherflow for Lustrate emergency healing as using 3 of these each minute is pretty helpful.

[Cannings]

That said during coil last night I started using Sacred Soil on cooldown and then rotating virus and eye for an eye when SS was on CD to keep one of the bosses damages permanently reduced and I think that is even better as it removes so much spike.

With my pet healing added into mine I don't only out heal a WHM I completely smash him into the group and not only that but I never require mages ballad and never get close to running out of mana even with constant healing and mid fight insta rezzing using swiftcast.

Scholars do not need any balancing to increase any of our heals would make fights too easy and make WHM's obsolete, Succor doesn't need a buff I tend to use it before the aoe so all party members start off with a shield then cast it again during aoe dmg, this combined with one medica 2 completely heals the raid. Make sure you position your pet correctly so he's in range of tank but also close enough to the melee/some of the ranged to keep healing them.

[ApolloGenX]

With my pet healing added into mine I don't only out heal a WHM I completely smash him into the group and not only that but I never require mages ballad and never get close to running out of mana even with constant healing and mid fight insta rezzing using swiftcast.

That's because it sounds like you understand shields. These SCH asking for buffs clearly try to heal like a whm and don't know how to play shield based healers.

I LOVE healing with a SCH partner. Unfortunately, if people do ask for 2 whms, it's probably because of bad experiences with SCH like the ones here crying.

[fanservice]

That's because it sounds like you understand shields. These SCH asking for buffs clearly try to heal like a whm and don't know how to play shield based healers.

And you don't know how to do math. Tell me, in what universe does a 150 heal potency shield + 10% aoe damage mitigation compare to being able to heal up 100% more aoe damage in the same window of time with 50% less MP? This is what happens when succor is your only reliable source of AOE healing.

I LOVE healing with a SCH partner. Unfortunately, if people do ask for 2 whms, it's probably because of bad experiences with SCH like the ones here crying.

No, it's because they're doing something like HM titan, or WHM AOE healing that is over 100% better, or being able to stack WHM regens. If you weren't struggling to pull excuses out of your arse, you'd know this.

I want you to name one thing SCH excel at, and is needed for, that WHM can't do.

Telling people to reroll WHM, or SMN doesn't balance a game. Telling people to do that is the same as saying "I can't debate that SCH are good or bad, so if they are bad, reroll". You don't even know where SCHs stand yourself.

No one's asking to be a WHM. People want just one aoe heal that doesn't suck and a controllable fairy. In your head, apparently having un-intuative pet control, and half of a medica balances out some imaginary gamebreaking-advantages that scholars don't have that warrants a total void in their healing kit.

Compared to everything SCH could be asking for, fixing the fairy control, and letting medica be usable by SCH isn't asking much. WHM still have cure iii, medica ii, and regen stacking to their name, and I'm ok with that, along with the fact SCH shields don't stack.


I'll welcome anyone to tell me what game-breaking advantage SCH have over WHM that makes the total lack of decent controllable AOE healing fair.