Heals for Scholors need a buff

[EmeraldSerenade]

I've been doing Titan for a few days, and it's pretty apparent that I'm unwanted. Doesn't matter how well I do, I just can't compete with Medica/Regen. Sure, I gain MP like a beast, but what's the point in having so much mana when I have to cast a high MP spell over and over for it to be noticeable?

And lets talk about Sacred Soil. Sacred Soil should -not- take Aetherflow stacks. Put it on a 30 Sec CD. I need those stacks for Lustrate / Energy Drain.

Ohh, and our pets pretty trashy right now. Long CDs, uses those CDs at-will, I have to keep it healed, and it's heal range is way too short.

I love Scholar, but the only thing we have going for us right now is Haste (which isn't used for Titan) and our MP gain (which doesn't save people from stomps)

What I would like to see:
-Succor buff. ( That doesn't revolve around Aetherflow)
-Sacred Soil removed from Aetherflow
-More Aetherflow stacks (Maybe tone down Energy Drain for this)
-Fairy buff with a smarter Ai.
-Something similar to regen. (Maybe a HoT that you can place on the ground?)

Right now we don't heal for very much, and we're way too reliant on Aetherflow, and when we're out of stacks, what abilities we can use are very limited. (Leaches, Psysick, and Succor. Personally I don't think Adloquium's that great.)

[ApolloGenX]

What I would like to see:
-Succor buff. ( That doesn't revolve around Aetherflow)
-Sacred Soil removed from Aetherflow
-More Aetherflow stacks (Maybe tone down Energy Drain for this)
-Fairy buff with a smarter Ai.
-Something similar to regen. (Maybe a HoT that you can place on the ground?)

Right now we don't heal for very much, and we're way too reliant on Aetherflow, and when we're out of stacks, what abilities we can use are very limited. (Leaches, Psysick, and Succor. Personally I don't think Adloquium's that great.)

Heals are lower, because you shield. If you want those improvements, be prepared to lose shielding on those heals you want buffed and if you want regen, be prepared to trade shields for it.... or you could just play a whm.

[Cannings]

Part 1
To be honest i've read through a few posts on here not all of them but I think a lot of people need to practice and refine their play on SCH.

So far I have healed all HM Primals and have reached turn 4 in coil, all these have been done with a WHM as the other healer for our FC.

According to parses my healing has been on par if not slightly behind his but only by a maximum of 5-10 hps then my pet has been healing a further 150-200k on top of what I have healed. I position my pet to do the majority of raid healing so that I can focus on the tank, I primarily spam physik as we can spam this spell non stop with 0 mana worries. I usually save my Aetherflow for Lustrate emergency healing as using 3 of these each minute is pretty helpful.

[Cannings]

That said during coil last night I started using Sacred Soil on cooldown and then rotating virus and eye for an eye when SS was on CD to keep one of the bosses damages permanently reduced and I think that is even better as it removes so much spike.

With my pet healing added into mine I don't only out heal a WHM I completely smash him into the group and not only that but I never require mages ballad and never get close to running out of mana even with constant healing and mid fight insta rezzing using swiftcast.

Scholars do not need any balancing to increase any of our heals would make fights too easy and make WHM's obsolete, Succor doesn't need a buff I tend to use it before the aoe so all party members start off with a shield then cast it again during aoe dmg, this combined with one medica 2 completely heals the raid. Make sure you position your pet correctly so he's in range of tank but also close enough to the melee/some of the ranged to keep healing them.

[ApolloGenX]

With my pet healing added into mine I don't only out heal a WHM I completely smash him into the group and not only that but I never require mages ballad and never get close to running out of mana even with constant healing and mid fight insta rezzing using swiftcast.

That's because it sounds like you understand shields. These SCH asking for buffs clearly try to heal like a whm and don't know how to play shield based healers.

I LOVE healing with a SCH partner. Unfortunately, if people do ask for 2 whms, it's probably because of bad experiences with SCH like the ones here crying.

[fanservice]

That's because it sounds like you understand shields. These SCH asking for buffs clearly try to heal like a whm and don't know how to play shield based healers.

And you don't know how to do math. Tell me, in what universe does a 150 heal potency shield + 10% aoe damage mitigation compare to being able to heal up 100% more aoe damage in the same window of time with 50% less MP? This is what happens when succor is your only reliable source of AOE healing.

I LOVE healing with a SCH partner. Unfortunately, if people do ask for 2 whms, it's probably because of bad experiences with SCH like the ones here crying.

No, it's because they're doing something like HM titan, or WHM AOE healing that is over 100% better, or being able to stack WHM regens. If you weren't struggling to pull excuses out of your arse, you'd know this.

I want you to name one thing SCH excel at, and is needed for, that WHM can't do.

Telling people to reroll WHM, or SMN doesn't balance a game. Telling people to do that is the same as saying "I can't debate that SCH are good or bad, so if they are bad, reroll". You don't even know where SCHs stand yourself.

No one's asking to be a WHM. People want just one aoe heal that doesn't suck and a controllable fairy. In your head, apparently having un-intuative pet control, and half of a medica balances out some imaginary gamebreaking-advantages that scholars don't have that warrants a total void in their healing kit.

Compared to everything SCH could be asking for, fixing the fairy control, and letting medica be usable by SCH isn't asking much. WHM still have cure iii, medica ii, and regen stacking to their name, and I'm ok with that, along with the fact SCH shields don't stack.


I'll welcome anyone to tell me what game-breaking advantage SCH have over WHM that makes the total lack of decent controllable AOE healing fair.

[ApolloGenX]

And you don't know how to do math.

the one where part of your heals can be put on before damage is even taken... and your fairy healing. You just go from thread to thread QQing. It's obvious what the problem is.

No, it's because they're doing something like HM titan, or WHM AOE healing that is over 100% better, or being able to stack WHM regens. If you weren't struggling to pull excuses out of your arse, you'd know this.

..and when I was in Titan it was with a SCH... obviously not you, this one was good. There was actually a video on Titan... they used 2 SCH and a WHM. I know you refuse to believe it, but sometimes it's a player issue. Clearly this is one of those times.

I want you to name one thing SCH excel at, and is needed for, that WHM can't do.

WHM can't shield. (Well they have stoneskin... but nothing like Sacred Soil or a group shield) They are healers, they can both heal.. this is a typical argument by someone wanting to be a special snowflake. Well you aren't and won't be, you are unique enough- you shouldn't be NEEDED, no one should be. This exposes your true desire to be REQUIRED or OP.

Please, just be honest and ask for what you really want- You want to be required for raids, so that people HAVE to take you- you want to be OP to make up for your problems... you obviously aren't succeeding based on your playing.

Can't you just switch to DPS so you can go clutter those forums with your QQ about how your dps class needs buffs and how everyone is stacking everything else?

[fanservice]

the one where part of your heals can be put on before damage is even taken... and your fairy healing. You just go from thread to thread QQing. It's obvious what the problem is.

Nice job on completely omitting, and dodging the question.

Tell me, in what universe does a 150 heal potency shield + 10% aoe damage mitigation compare to being able to heal up 100% more aoe damage in the same window of time with 50% less MP? This is what happens when succor is your only reliable source of AOE healing.

Care to answer that?

WHM can't shield. They are healers, they can both heal.. this is a typical argument by someone wanting to be a special snowflake. Well you aren't and won't be, you are unique enough- you shouldn't be NEEDED, no one should be. This exposes your true desire to be REQUIRED or OP.

That qualifies as double standard coming from you considering I have yet to see anyone assert that WHM aren't required for anything sporting AOE damage around HM titan level.

Your video doesn't conflict with my point at all. They still have a WHM, and the use of 3 healers to counter the damage when SE's ideal group is 2 tanks, 2 healers, and 4 DDs, so that qualifies for 'healer stacking' which only serves to blur any issues the healers have. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that healing on that fight would be even easier/less risky with less SCHs, and more WHMs. Congrats on posting a video that proved... nothing.

That shield doesn't make or break fights. Having strong AOE healing does.
You don't need a shield, but you do (and will need in the future unless SE stops making fights with tons of AOE damage) strong AOE healing.

Half the time, and MP spent healing the group=less risk. This is a reason why a WHM is necessary. This is before we even consider the regen stacking they're capable of, while talk of the modest buffing of succor/giving SCH's medica, and having pet control options that make sense would magically make SCH's broken to you?

What makes a SCH unique isn't necessary with their current values. For example, in order for sacred soil to be worth one tick of regen on each person, people need to get hit by an attack that deals ~2k damage while standing in it, mitigating a wopping 200 damage per person. That is a 30 second cooldown tied to atherflow (so that's one less lustrate), that lasts 10 seconds. Succor is similar in the fact that it gets outdone by HOTs alone; its shield potency is equal to a 150 potency heal.

This is before we even count the direct AOE heals. The shielding, damage mitigation, and AOE healing just doesn't compare. Besides lustrate and the fairy allowing me to multitask a little, SCH's don't really have much over WHMs. The addition of a 300 potency AOE heal won't completely tip the balance in favor of SCH's, but it would make them less of a liability in AOE heavy phases. Buffing sacred soil, or succor's absorb effects to meaningful levels could also work if SE wants to keep uniqueness...

Trust me, I want to say SCH's have better single target sustained healing, but that's something either healer can do just fine, and I keep remembering WHM's regen stacking ...

With an MMO like this, it's a matter of time before we get more fights with more burst AOE damage just like titan HM.

Please, just be honest and ask for what you really want- You want to be required for raids, so that people HAVE to take you- you want to be OP to make up for your problems

That sounds like you're describing WHM, since I have yet to see anyone assert that you can do anything remotely challenging without a WHM.

... you obviously aren't succeeding based on your playing.

And you aren't succeeding at proving a point using numbers, while glossing over your experience in a 2 sentence summary, while trying to ride the coattails of videos made by people who aren't you, and throwing around baseless insults at my ability to play when we're not even on the same server, while I have yet to do that to you. You're just plain rude now.