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  1. #31
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    Rau Berlioz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    The initial NMs were panic installments of a floundering team. We can only hope that they have heavy materia slots, if there even is such a thing. Otherwise, yes. None of the first generation of NM gear will end up being relevant, as "hard" as it was to get. Every time the team wants to go kill mosshorn I'm like silently...why? Zero point. Unless we're just that bored with other NMs, which we honestly are.

    It just....sadly....only served to buy time. Oh well. **** happens. You have to play the game in realtime. If you spend all your time preparing to have fun, you'll never actually do it. Those NMs were fun while they lasted.

    Still, I agree. That gear should have been much better. The R35 gear blows half of it out of the water if you're not tanking, and can be soloed and duo'd. The faction NMs have ten times the cost and require twice the stopping power. I'm 1/7 on faction gear. I have better drop rate on prince of pestilence.

    I think the first-gen NMs are just meant to be forgotten. Shame, really. At this point, I'd save my faction points up as opposed to blowing them on small chances at gimp gear...but it caps at 1000 points.

    I couldn't agree more.
    Honestly, I hope this materia is everything I'm hoping it is, and rectifies the situation regarding gear. I'm also hoping all gear/stat relationships will be redone (MIND on Mossy Scale Mail? what?).

    As they are now, all these random STR, MND, etc buffs don't seem to do anything. It's kind of sad working on all this gear, only to find its the same as supposedly inferior pieces.

    I hope Yoshi doesn't put the people who've been playing since Day 1 (or.... Day 7?) in the backseat in favor of people just starting (or in the middle of it) the game. There should be a good ratio of new/endgame content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    I couldn't agree more.
    Honestly, I hope this materia is everything I'm hoping it is, and rectifies the situation regarding gear. I'm also hoping all gear/stat relationships will be redone (MIND on Mossy Scale Mail? what?).

    As they are now, all these random STR, MND, etc buffs don't seem to do anything. It's kind of sad working on all this gear, only to find its the same as supposedly inferior pieces.

    I hope Yoshi doesn't put the people who've been playing since Day 1 (or.... Day 7?) in the backseat in favor of people just starting (or in the middle of it) the game. There should be a good ratio of new/endgame content.
    MND effects Mining, that's why there is a MND and Gathering bonus on Mossy - so that Miners can use it in areas where there is possible aggro from mobs.
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    Maybe the higher level harder to get items should be slightly powered up..
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    Oh and it's "kai-neh", not "kain".. and it is feminine.. u.u

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grundy View Post
    MND effects Mining, that's why there is a MND and Gathering bonus on Mossy - so that Miners can use it in areas where there is possible aggro from mobs.
    If you're wearing the mosshorn scale mail while mining, you're doing it wrong.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    If you're wearing the mosshorn scale mail while mining, you're doing it wrong.


    word. Miner/bot/fsh should get their own epeen gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grundy View Post
    MND effects Mining, that's why there is a MND and Gathering bonus on Mossy - so that Miners can use it in areas where there is possible aggro from mobs.
    More useful as a pinch more mdef honestly. It's a good option for MRD or LNC that don't have bucc shirt for things like gob and dodore if they're having trouble keeping their face out of the dirt.

    Edit: Note, I use the term "useful," very, very loosely here.
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    Last edited by Airlea; 05-11-2011 at 04:25 AM.

  7. #37
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    The stats on it make zero sense with the recc classes. Gathering? Ok...that's great but the only gathering class on it is fisher.

    Armorer and leather worker? Did they just pull recc classes out of a hat or something?
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    Where the horsebirds at?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grundy View Post
    I call shenanigans. Slippery Sykes, Queen Bolete and Nest Commander I'll allow. Daddy Long Legs, Cactaur Jack, Bardi and most others? not a chance.
    Actually me and a friend at r33(he was lnc, i was arc) duod daddy long legs, and we had bardi down to 5% or so at 32.
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    Kiara Silvermoon
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    Hi Rau,

    Great post.

    I agree with Peregrine and others in that the "1st wave" of NM Gear and Faction NM Gear were made under a different time, and different Producer / Team.

    Square can always adjust the stats (and visuals) hopefully, or as you say, maybe Materia Customization, or they'll go the way of the Dodo and be obsolete (unfortunate).

    You can definitely tell the new team under Yoshida put a lot of thought into most of the new R30 NM Drops, with custom 3D Models / Textures that the original NM Drops didn't have (many of which were just retextured / re-used assets).

    And I hope they redo the Harlequin Gear set (it looks so ugly! (>_<)).
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    First thing that needs to be done is a revamp of the effect of stats on a character. Right now gear has very little impact on character performance and without that there is no gratification in getting anything.
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