Quote Originally Posted by Leonas View Post
Nothing " hardcore" about clearing trash that literally give you nothing at all for your time. Unless you choose to beleive thats hardcore. But thats YOUR belief. Personally I just find it pointless.

EDIT: Lol at " Go play WoW. " I bet you weren't around for vanilla WoW were you? Them 10 man UBRS runs were you had to CC 4 - 5 mobs and have people keep CCing, boss kite tactics for end bosses, etc. DPS actually sat around and waited before dpsing packs for the 2 - 3 sunders. Was a whole lot more annoying that herding cats here in Duty Finder.
Yeah played wow at vanilla( Vanilla was great, Cata after the easy button was turned on and pandaria sucked ass and THE GAME NOW IS VERY EASY) and FFXI until the Treasures of Aht Urhgan expansion, and anything I have seen in WoW was easier than FFXI specially gearing up.I don't know how XI got after i left the game, but everything i did in FFXI was harder and more rewarding(even when i didn't get the drop that i wanted) than WoW, and had more fun kiting a lvl 20 garrison than doing Upper Blackrock Spire runs.
Grinding killing trash mobs and running stuff over and over again is part of those games(that was pretty much how u lvled in XI made good friends this way, too bad community now seems full of people that just want to scream fast run and do things faster and pointless now),it makes you actually play to get what u want instead of just throwing it at your lap , people who say that they want stuff easy are just used to WoW giving then anything they want.
P.S.:Finished getting my darklight gear just by running Castrum, was way too easy to get it and mostly did it with duty finder groups(what means several screw ups and wipes on it, mostly caused from guys shouting fast run), people complaining it takes too much work to get stuff are just lazy.