Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
Simple economics lesson:
100 people all farming the same item = that items price goes down
100 people who have a ton of money all trying to buy a rare item= that items price goes way up
So no i didn't go against myself, you just didn't understand my argument.

you're basically arguing that its ok for other people to cheat and get the best items really fast because you are willing to spend a year grinding to get that same item. While that is -your- opinion, it is not one shared by most people.
There is a reason why FFXI worked so hard to get rid of RMT and fishbots and such.
And in the end, crafts and gathering became essentially -useless- in ffxi
and most good items became rare/ex

The thing is, SE already made these mistakes in FFXI. They have no excuse to be making them again with FFXIV. If they don't ban all the botters, they only way they have to make the game somewhat fair is to create rare/ex items that you get from raids or nms. That means the game will probably have to become raid-heavy. As a result the whole "casualness" is elminated. And the game still has to attract a HUGE new population to be anywhere near successful. A raid-heavy game probably won't attract enough of a population. So FFXIV is essentially setting itself up for failure.

And thats what concerns me.
And where does the rare item come from? You're complaining that you dont want to put effort in yet you're complaining about those who dont want to put effort in. There wasnt a single item in XI I couldnt really get unless it was like Novio because my friends just were not skilled or never tried the NM, I even got a kraken which was mega rare, how did I get it? BCNM. Just keep trying and everytime I didnt get it, I would stockpile the gil go farm and try again. It took a long time yes but I got it and didnt need to cheat but I knew people who rmt'd to get it, and what did I do? Nothing, we went n killed bunch of shit n had fun cuse im not jealous nore do I care!

Yes they did make mistakes in XI, such as stupid spawn times, stupid item obtain rules, and their solution was Abyssea where you can solo to get most of everything and gil is absolute useless and XIV is doing the same exact thing, small spawn timers and everything being rare/ex

SE are not going to follow the same path and even if they did, you can still go get it. If you want to complain that it takes long to get something, then cheat lol otherwise you're playing the wrong game! This is a long time game.