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    I say we need a wide variety of different styles. Some weapons could have subtle auras, others could have faintly glowing runes, and a few could even have big, engulfing flames pouring off of them. Though obviously there would still be plenty of weapons without any glow at all. Variety is key.

    All you people need to stop being such fanboys and recognize the fact that weapons in WoW and Aion look freakin' badass. :P

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    Ugh, if I see glowing, flaming, sparkling people running around this game jumping around like baboons, I'm done.
    K, bye! (^_^)/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhianu View Post
    All you people need to stop being such fanboys and recognize the fact that weapons in WoW and Aion look freakin' badass. :P
    But this isn't WoW or Aion, and that is also a fact that needs to be recognized. This is a next gen MMORPG, not another rip of WoW.

    Glowing weapons are just unsettling and out of place for the style of this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    Glowing weapons are just unsettling and out of place for the style of this game.
    Uh... no, they aren't. This is a fantasy game with magic. Glowing things couldn't be any more at home in such a setting.

    Besides, a "glow" is nothing more than light, and there is no such thing as a game where light looks out of place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhianu View Post
    Uh... no, they aren't. This is a fantasy game with magic. Glowing things couldn't be any more at home in such a setting.

    Besides, a "glow" is nothing more than light, and there is no such thing as a game where light looks out of place.
    Just because it's fantasy doesn't mean glowing weapons automatically fit. These things have sub genres. That's like saying light sabres would be at home in Star Trek.

    Glowing weapons are more fitting of fairytale fantasy. XIV is more of a high fantasy thing. If a sword does glow, it's because it's an ancient one of a kind deal that just would not do well in an MMO unless an NPC used it. Think sting in LotR.

    Seeing 20 or so guys running around with Ifrit's Butter Knife kinda ruins its importance as an ancient weapon of great power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Just because it's fantasy doesn't mean glowing weapons automatically fit. These things have sub genres. That's like saying light sabres would be at home in Star Trek.

    Glowing weapons are more fitting of fairytale fantasy. XIV is more of a high fantasy thing. If a sword does glow, it's because it's an ancient one of a kind deal that just would not do well in an MMO unless an NPC used it. Think sting in LotR.

    Seeing 20 or so guys running around with Ifrit's Butter Knife kinda ruins its importance as an ancient weapon of great power.
    Sorry, but you're wrong. And your lightsaber analogy doesn't work because lightsabers are a very specific object, not some general idea that can be applied in a myriad of ways, such as a glowing light.

    And glowing things can fit in with high-fantasy just as well as they can with your so-called "fairy-tail" fantasy. Trying to claim that glowing things don't fit into a high-fantasy setting is absolutely ridiculous.

    Also, just so you know, WoW, Aion, and EverQuest also qualify as high-fantasy, just like FFXIV and FFXI.

    And there are going to be tons of people running around with endgame gear, regardless of whether it glows or not, so that's not a valid argument, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhianu View Post
    Sorry, but you're wrong. And your lightsaber analogy doesn't work because lightsabers are a very specific object, not some general idea that can be applied in a myriad of ways, such as a glowing light.

    And glowing things can fit in with high-fantasy just as well as they can with your so-called "fairy-tail" fantasy. Trying to claim that glowing things don't fit into a high-fantasy setting is absolutely ridiculous.

    Also, just so you know, WoW, Aion, and EverQuest also qualify as high-fantasy, just like FFXIV and FFXI.

    And there are going to be tons of people running around with endgame gear, regardless of whether it glows or not, so that's not a valid argument, either.
    You must not know of many Scifi series if you think lightsabers are a very specific object.
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LaserBlade

    WoW, EverQuest, and Aion do NOT qualify as the style of High Fantasy XIV represents.
    • WoW is in the style of a comic book. (Brightly colored, heavily action based, two teams of "good" and "bad")
    • EverQuest is in the style of a 90's fantasy novel. (Medieval fantasy with the lights turned up and fireworks everywhere, riddled with nostalgic fantasy tropes)
    • Aion is in the style of a Manhwa. (Stylized realism, heavily action based, two teams of "good" and "bad)
    • FFXIV is in the style of a classical fantasy novel. (classical themes, subtle use of magic in comparison with other series, deep in its own pantheon)
    Doesn't make any of them any better or worse in terms of themes, just different tastes for different folks.
    And mind you this is only a quick comparison. So it's not too refined.

    In order to keep this from turning into a big ugly argument, this will be the last point I make on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    There very much is a maturity level involved, by the demographic. We don't want Twilight. We make fun of Twilight. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but we're looking for a more mature MMO.
    I would like to point out that like Harry Potter, Twilight is also popular among adults. Though unlike Harry Potter, Twilight tends to appeal more exclusively to women, and not so much to men. But regardless, you're wrong to say that Twilight only appeals to children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    WoW, EverQuest, and Aion do NOT qualify as the style of High Fantasy XIV represents.
    • WoW is in the style of a comic book. (Brightly colored, heavily action based, two teams of "good" and "bad")
    • EverQuest is in the style of a 90's fantasy novel. (Medieval fantasy with the lights turned up and fireworks everywhere, riddled with nostalgic fantasy tropes)
    • Aion is in the style of a Manhwa. (Stylized realism, heavily action based, two teams of "good" and "bad)
    • FFXIV is in the style of a classical fantasy novel. (classical themes, subtle use of magic in comparison with other series, deep in its own pantheon)
    Doesn't make any of them any better or worse in terms of themes, just different tastes for different folks.
    And mind you this is only a quick comparison. So it's not too refined.
    Uh... WoW, EverQuest, and Aion are most definitely considered to be "high fantasy." To claim that they're not is absolutely asinine. Do you even know what the term "high fantasy" means? Cuz' I don't think you do. You claim WoW is not high fantasy because its art style looks similar to a comic book, but you fail to realize that most comic books also qualify as high fantasy.

    And why did you even bring up good vs. evil? Is the fact that WoW has two opposing factions supposed to be some kind of evidence of something? I hate to break it to you, but the presence of opposing factions does NOT disqualify a work from being considered "high fantasy."

    Your arguments against EQ and Aion are even more flawed and ridiculous.
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