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    Quote Originally Posted by Comalol View Post
    adloquim is really better than cure II
    cure 2 650 potency hp healed
    adlo 300 potency heal 300 potency shield
    Adlo is worse then cure 2 because of numbers and the fact adlo can't be spammed like cure 2 can due to the fact 2 adlo back to back is wasted healing since shield doesnt stack.

    medica 2 is also preemptive healing like succor. whm get both a preemptive aoe heal and a burst heal.

    swift cast insta summon fairy
    So i have blow instant cast cd on poorly designed fairy but whm gets to swiftcast medica/medica 2/raise even furthering the gap

    @sharazisspecial Have you tried putting your pet on Obey
    Eos still wastes her aoe heal when i have obey on

    Anyway folks i have done the math and seen the difference in healing. I have tested sch in coil and now i will play whm in coil instead. When se fix sch issue i will use in challenging place but not atm

    With only a 150 potency aoe heal i need to chain cast it spending more time not healing the tank. Compared to whm who can toss a 700 total potency aoe heal and go back to tank healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    Adlo is worse then cure 2 because of numbers and the fact adlo can't be spammed like cure 2 can due to the fact 2 adlo back to back is wasted healing

    medica 2 is also preemptive healing like succor
    Why would you spam a heal with a shield while the shield is still up? If your saying that WHM raw HP throughput is higher when you get yourself in trouble and need to dig yourself out of an HP deficit... well yeah. The difference is that you can cast that Adlo sooner in the HP deficit and not have to worry about overhealing. Ultimately it's a spell better suited to keeping you from getting into an HP deficit in the first place.

    Lets stop comparing Medica II to Succor. Succor is almost a carbon copy of Medica I. If your going to compare Medica II to anything, compare it to Whispering Dawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draemos View Post
    Whispering Dawn.
    I have a whispering dawn spell? All i see is a greyed out on cooldown spell.

    Lets stop comparing Medica II to Succor. Succor is almost a carbon copy of Medica I
    Why? you can preemptively cast medica 2 same way as you can preemptively cast succor. To easy up the healing required from the aoe.

    Sch lacks a burst aoe healing tool. They dont have a medica equivalent so they waste half the succor spell effect to bring the raid's hp back up. Same would happen if SE removed medica from whm, whm would have to waste half of medica2's effect if it wasn't enough healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    I have a whispering dawn spell? All i see is a greyed out on cooldown spell.



    Why? you can preemptively cast medica 2 same way as you can preemptively cast succor. To easy up the healing required from the aoe.

    Sch lacks a burst aoe healing tool. They dont have a medica equivalent so they waste half the succor spell effect to bring the raid's hp back up.

    There is several tips about how to control your pet in this thread to prevent it from casting unwanted spells while still using embrace. SCH pet control is an issue and unintuitive, but that's THE ISSUE. Not giving you more healing throughput.

    Continually comparing Medica II to Succor is just going to get you put on my troll list. It's a nonsense comparison when Succor is obviously a 1:1 copy of Medica I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draemos View Post
    There is several tips about how to control your pet in this thread to prevent it from casting unwanted spells while still using embrace. SCH pet control is an issue and unintuitive, but that's THE ISSUE. Not giving you more healing throughput.

    Continually comparing Medica II to Succor is just going to get you put on my troll list. It's a nonsense comparison when Succor is obviously a 1:1 copy of Medica I
    Obey does not stop faerie from wasting it

    Succor is preemptive healing
    Medica 2 can be preemptive healing
    You would never ever cast medica on a full hp raid would you? But you would cast succor/medica2 on a full hp raid to prep for aoe damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    Obey does not stop faerie from wasting it

    Succor is preemptive healing
    Medica 2 can be preemptive healing
    You would never ever cast medica on a full hp raid would you? But you would cast succor/medica2 on a full hp raid to prep for aoe damage.
    It's irrelevant because you are ignoring your most potent healing spell (which is also preemptive) and Medica IIs peer due to pet issues. Your presenting data in a skewed way to prop up an argument.
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