OP assumes SE will keep this the way it is until the end of time. Big assumption.
Maybe they have it this way now so people don't no life their way into AF+1 Gear a month after release.
You know people would do this if possible...

OP assumes SE will keep this the way it is until the end of time. Big assumption.
Maybe they have it this way now so people don't no life their way into AF+1 Gear a month after release.
You know people would do this if possible...
like this game is not easy enough to get stuff...

This game is EASY compared to many MMOs please don't make it easier. I come from Lineage II it took me 2 years to reach max level!! That's right 2 years just to reach endgame. Yes obviously this was on the official servers, private servers had much higher XP rates.
You do realize that if you intend to stuff all your classes in AF+1 with only AK runs, you're doing it completely wrong, do you?
BCoB gives mythological tomestones, and more than AK. Crystal Tower, which is announced to be released in 2.1 (so expected in november) will most probably give mythological tomestones, and in greater quantity than AK. There will also be new dungeons in 2.1 (yes, it was announced by Yoshida), which will most probably give myth. tomestones too.
And that is without taking into account that expecting to be fully geared with the best stuff in less than 5 months is ridiculous.
5 months to get the 3rd highest set IS ridiculous. When Crystal Tower comes out in 2 months with ilvl 80 gear wtf will the point of AR+1 gear even be?
The problem is not that you have to farm AK, the problem is the weekly mythology cap is too low relative to the price of the equipment.
And you actually think that in 3years the only way to get good myth is AK? thats funny
1 dungeon to grind for 5 months. Yeah, that's not a difficulty issue, that's a lack of content issue.
But, I'm amused that the new generation of MMO players have started equating tedium and monotony to difficulty.
Your not going to maintain subs from non-raiders if you only give them 1 dungeon to run.

I believe that all the casual players who has been whining from day 1 (the majority) to put more content, easier and more convenient systems in place in order for this game to succeed doesn't really know what they want because they now play the role of what they claim they wasn't. Which is hardcore rushing gamers.
Man, I'm 1 month into the game soon, I have been here since the dawn of this game.
I stick with it even though SE went for the WOW model, this doesn't mean I don't have a patience meter. But this constant mass whining once something grand takes time really makes me wonder, what the hell are you even doing playing an MMO if you sit there and calculate how long time it takes.
Last edited by Joji; 09-15-2013 at 08:39 PM.

5 months is a pretty valid assumption of a patch cycle. Expecting to be fully geared on ONE class only within 5 months is well and truly within reason, particularly since that completely precludes you gearing ANY other DoW/M in the meantime.You do realize that if you intend to stuff all your classes in AF+1 with only AK runs, you're doing it completely wrong, do you?
BCoB gives mythological tomestones, and more than AK. Crystal Tower, which is announced to be released in 2.1 (so expected in november) will most probably give mythological tomestones, and in greater quantity than AK. There will also be new dungeons in 2.1 (yes, it was announced by Yoshida), which will most probably give myth. tomestones too.
And that is without taking into account that expecting to be fully geared with the best stuff in less than 5 months is ridiculous.
Ultimately, all the people who are saying "do you think it's unreasonable to take 5 months to gear up" are missing the bigger picture; the fact that it takes 5 months through shear lockouts alone causes a massive issue when it comes to gearing and playing alts. Basically, we have clashes of two vantage points to the same type of game. We have a system of jobs where every job is bound to the same character and lockouts, meaning that only one class can benefit from said lockouts. Down the track when there are alternate equally viable gearing paths to ToM it will be less of a problem, but only because that will render ToM worthless.
The OP is 100% correct, and that is why I am waiting for said content to be released before I go hard for progression. It is no mark of pride to be willing to run the same dungeon 56 times in a week to gear up in darklight for bahamut's coil - it's a mark of lunacy. I got halfway through gearing my pally before I thought to myself "what the heck is going on here, this can't be right", and went to research where the missing content is.
Ill be spending the time until the real progression cycle commences leveling up multiple roles so that when the content is actually released in a fashion that doesn't require insane grinding is released, I'll be ready for it in every context.


even if you had 10 dungeon where you get the tomes, the trouble will still be there 5 month for get the whole set... when in the same time, if you have a good fc you will be in full allagan from bahamut, and in less of 5 month.
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