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  1. #171
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    AunaYuuki's Avatar
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    Aizu Varenshutain
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I probably shouldn't post here, but I am going to anyhow.
    In 1.0 it took about 4-5 months to get a set of DL if you are lucky shorter. It takes about 3 days to get a full set without no-lifeing it peeing in a bottle type of deal.
    Relic was a kick in the face to get in 1.0. You can complete the relic quest in a day now.
    Takes 3 weeks (no random maints) to +1 relic.
    You have to work for something....right?

    I'm hoping that with the new content upcoming in 2.1 they will offer more mythology tomestones per instance and lift the cap a bit. 5 months is a bit..harsh, but with everything else being spoon fed I don't see it as a bad thing. Yet, new gear/etc will be introduced in the upcoming months so we will see. =/
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  2. #172
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    nelar's Avatar
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    Nelar Telvan
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 33
    I love peoples excuse that if you don't want to grind the gear don't do it... what else is there to do lol? from what i've seen crafting is pointless at 50, which is a pity as the crafting system in this game is very good.

    In the end, you're grinding gear. So you can get the gear to grind more gear. Just reminds me of this: Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    I guess I'm sick of the old format of do a dungeon 100 times. Why can't players improve there character through world events, crafting or unique and hard quest lines, or final fantasy staple mini games! I want Blitz ball, chocobo racing and card games. I loved blitzball, spent so much time playing that. I just hope the golden saucer adds this kind of content and also gives it a purpose (ie good gear/items). PVP would also be very nice to have including PVP for the mini games, they really need to add this soon.
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  3. #173
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    Diamente's Avatar
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    Solanis Diamante
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    Malboro
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    This is the very nature of FF MMOs though. Hell back in FFXI we would do Sky and Dynamis as much as we could, 20 hours+ a week EASILY and you were lucky if you got 1 piece of gear a MONTH. The adventure and the company though made it fun for the most part. Now do I think this is something you should continue on for years and years? No, but it can be fun to get lost in a game for a little while. I have to put that caveat in there because my LS from FFXI that played from launch is still doing endgame on this schedule so you figure they've spent 1.3 YEARS of playtime by now..... (I left half a decade ago)
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  4. #174
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    Ahlen's Avatar
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    Ahlen Cross
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by JemAs666 View Post
    Who gives a rat's ass how long it takes if you are having fun. If not then people can leave, its really that simple.
    You know what my favorite business strategy is? Driving away large parts of my customer base! It always works out so well.

    OT: 5 months is way too long for a single gear set, 2-3 months would be more appropriate (as content should be turned out every 3 months, especially for a P2P game).
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  5. #175
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    Fated's Avatar
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    Fated Erskine
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Onnslaught View Post
    Sorry OP I just don't agree with you. The fact you can get raid level gear without even doing the actual raid itself is reward enough. It is there for people to get gear who either don't want to raid or are putting in the time to get drops and just are unlucky with the RNG. I actually love the fact that it takes a long time to get.

    One of my biggest concerns for when the game launched was this very issue on whether tokens dropping for raid level gear would be too easy to obtain. This is a solid system they have in place and I am a big fan of it. Either put in the time to raid and you will eventually be rewarded either through drops or tokens (or both) or run dungeons a bunch to get the raid equivalent gear.
    This post is everything in a nutshell.
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  6. #176
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    BoomerOU's Avatar
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    Vaera Ty'rin
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    Mateus
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    Lancer Lv 62
    I'd be surprised if a large quantity of tomes aren't included in every chest of crystal tower. The non-raid drops of tomes is so small because SE is giving non raiders a chance at gear, albiet over a long period of time.
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  7. #177
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    I don't mind how it is structured. However, making Amdapor Keep the only non-primal/raid form of gaining Mythology tokens was a really poor design choice. They really should of made it a randomize tool for Lv.50 Duty Finder dungeons so you are rewarded mythology tokens for choosing and completing a dungeon randomly.

    While it is inevitable that going through dungeons a certain amount of times a week eventually feels more like a chore than having fun, people got sick of Amdapor Keep just after a few runs, and made people feel like doing speed runs only was necessary thing which I cannot blame people for. Now its even more tedious since the fix on speed runs.

    To get AF2, it takes 10 weeks to obtain 5/5 of the pieces. This is fine as long as it just doesn't get outdated as soon as I obtain them all. After getting Relic+1, it will be November 18th when I get full AF2. Neat. *assuming my math is right*
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  8. #178
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    Dingleberry's Avatar
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    Bo Jack
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    Aegis
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    SE remade this game in roughly 2 years, that is impressive, nobody can deny that. A team that could do that could pump out content like no other MMO possibly could. There will be new content in the next five months.

    You are exactly the kind of player who wants everything handed to them with little to no effort, you can't "finish" this game in a month, and there is a reason for that. If you had your way you would already have full af+1 and be here complaining about how there is nothing to do.

    You are the kind of person we don't want playing this game, so go on GET!
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  9. #179
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    Orophin's Avatar
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'm guessing there's going to be other alternatives to getting Mythology stones in future patches. Right now we're just pretty limited in what methods we have available.
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  10. #180
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    Synfrag's Avatar
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    Syn Kazama
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    I don't mind how it is structured. However, making Amdapor Keep the only non-primal/raid form of gaining Mythology tokens was a really poor design choice.
    This was not by design. They had to put off Crystal Tower due to unresolved issues and difficulty. CT was intended to be in the release and is a much larger and evolving dungeon which would be dropping Philosophy and Mythology. At that tier and including Binding Coil is why we have things like Coke, Peacock Ore etc. that cost stupid amounts of Philosophy because by that time you are collecting Myth for your AFv2 and Relic +1 along with getting gear drops from CT and BC.

    It's pretty clear that the endgame picture is not how they intended it and I'm sure come 2.1 with the addition of Housing, PvP (& PvP Gearsets), Crystal Tower and all of the additional level 50 Dungeons they have already talked about being implemented with each patch there will be a plethora of options for where you farm this stuff and occupy your time. Allagan gear drops in Binding Coil are already equal to AFv2 so in the end people will most likely be spending their Myth for their non-primary jobs anyhow.

    TL;DR OP's point and concern are moot as it is not "Working as intended"
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    Last edited by Synfrag; 09-17-2013 at 03:49 AM.

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