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    First Id like to take the opportunity to thanks everyone who took the time to post there opinion.

    Thank you. I appreciate it.

    If theres 50 leves to knowing how to cast wizardry spells as a master.
    Then there is only 15 levels to learning how to be a descent fisherman.
    Or you could just hand out way more xp every nod whatever..

    The interface was a big problem I agree. but can you honestly say this game
    gels well together? I honestly can't imagine how such a world could even exist
    even if it is fantasy. And that would explain the General WTF? a huge majority of
    players have expressed.

    Guild leve's? Some kind of communist system side by side with a open free player economies?
    Player Company's Who the hell is making this up? What has any of this have to do with
    Final Fantasy?

    I mean at least there should be some kind of tensions between the Capitalist Merchants and the Communist Adventuring guild no?
    I know there would be here where I live on this planet.

    I'm glad giants Axe wielding marauders feel they can live side by side with such people with such huge diference of thoughts on how the world should be.

    Id sure love to know the lore of how that has come to pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post
    Guild leve's? Some kind of communist system side by side with a open free player economies?
    . . .
    I mean at least there should be some kind of tensions between the Capitalist Merchants and the Communist Adventuring guild no?
    I'm confused. How are adventurer's guilds communist? I get my own rewards, and get to use them however I want. That's free market.

    And keep in mind that Communist and free market economies exist side by side in the real world. So even if Adv Guilds were Communist -- which again, I don't see how they are -- I'm not sure how that's inconsistent with having Market Wards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VydarrTyr View Post
    I'm confused. How are adventurer's guilds communist? I get my own rewards, and get to use them however I want. That's free market.

    And keep in mind that Communist and free market economies exist side by side in the real world. So even if Adv Guilds were Communist -- which again, I don't see how they are -- I'm not sure how that's inconsistent with having Market Wards.

    Then what is it? a adventuring Union? Where do the Cards come from? Who is paying for everyone to do the same Leve's every 36 houres? why do camps have massive teleport Crystals protected by 2 npc a tent and a knee high fence?
    Why can I pick how many stars my leve will be. It just go's on and on.

    I know they are hubs. but who owns them? Who the hell made the's Teleport Crystals. Don't you think something as powerfull as that would get stolen out in the middle of nowhere protected by 2 guys in a tent? Don't you think they would have built better living quarters considering there going to be spendin the rest of there life there.

    I understand all this stuff is just there to make the game a game.

    It's just a bunch of mechanics of a mini game with no reason to belive it has anything to do with a world i'm trying to Imagine myself in.
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    I think maybe you misunderstand the word "Communist."

    "Communist" refers to a system in which there are no private property rights, and goods are distributed by a central authority ("from each according to his means, to each according to his needs.") Do you have a different definition?
    Quote Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post
    Then what is it? a adventuring Union?
    No, it's an Adventurer's Guild. The definition of "Guild" is an association of people in the same trade or craft. It's got nothing to do with Communism.
    Where do the Cards come from?
    The Adv Guild. So what? Newspapers have classified ads for jobs. Does that make all newspapers Communist? It's got nothing to do with property rights. If anything, the fact that you can choose which jobs you do makes it a free market system.
    Who is paying for everyone to do the same Leve's every 36 houres?
    I honestly don't know. I would imagine it's whoever wants them done. Whether that's private individuals or the Adventurer's Guild or the government, I don't know. But either way, that doesn't make them Communist.

    All democratic governments pay individuals and entities to perform certain tasks that they want done. Like the military, or the DMV, or people who build roads. That doesn't make them Communist. The fact that you're paid for performing those tasks makes them not Communist. (If you were required to do them, and you weren't paid for them, that might be more like Communism.)
    why do camps have massive teleport Crystals protected by 2 npc a tent and a knee high fence?
    Again, no idea. And no idea how teleport crystals make them Communist.
    Why can I pick how many stars my leve will be. It just go's on and on.
    Huh? Are you suggesting that in a free economy, you won't be able to pick how many stars you'll run your leves at? That makes absolutely no sense to me. If anything, that would be less democratic.
    I know they are hubs. but who owns them? Who the hell made the's Teleport Crystals. Don't you think something as powerfull as that would get stolen out in the middle of nowhere protected by 2 guys in a tent?
    Well, at least you're veering towards the right track with this one, since you're talking about ownership of property. But I don't know who owns the crystals. Who do you think owns them?
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