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    If you had your way we'd all start with every class maxed out, because "it just makes sense". Do you really think someone experienced with a sword who can slay giant beats could suddenly struggle to defeat a marmot because he's using an axe? Do you really think it would take more skill for a carpenter to make a half mask from one type of wood than another?

    The game failed because it was released with a horrendous UI, a battle system few people like, there was barely any content and the SP system was disliked. Not because you can't take your rank 1 miner to Halatali and dig up gold like candy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    If you had your way we'd all start with every class maxed out, because "it just makes sense". Do you really think someone experienced with a sword who can slay giant beats could suddenly struggle to defeat a marmot because he's using an axe? Do you really think it would take more skill for a carpenter to make a half mask from one type of wood than another?

    The game failed because it was released with a horrendous UI, a battle system few people like, there was barely any content and the SP system was disliked. Not because you can't take your rank 1 miner to Halatali and dig up gold like candy.
    the ui lag was definately as killer for alot of people at the begining
    as time goes on content is #1 on that list thats making people shy away, the ui isnt even an issue for 99% of the people now and those still using it as an excuse are those not playing it who stillt hink it lags like day 1

    but its right, gathering is fine, sure an sp increase would be nice

    but at the end of the day, dont look at SP hit per swingm look at it per node

    sure i get 80 per hit, but at 8 hits thats 640 sp per tree. or when i get 3 swings i get 250 per, thats 750 sp per tree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    the ui isnt even an issue for 99% of the people now and those still using it as an excuse are those not playing it who stillt hink it lags like day 1
    The UI is still horrendous, its still server side and much laggier than most current gen MMO's and most importantly it is still designed with the PS3 in mind, the pc version should have its own UI completely serpate from the PS3 one.

    Obviously this isn't the thread to be discussing this though, just felt that I should point out that the UI is still teribad.

    but at the end of the day, dont look at SP hit per swingm look at it per node
    Thats fine for botanist and miner but fishing isn't really the same, besides we should be looking at how long it takes to kill a monster vs how long it takes to gather.

    Mining 8 times on a node is much much much longer than it takes to kill one monster on a battle class.

    They should be comparitive, say if it takes me 1 mins to gain 100 sp as a battle class then it should be similar on a gathering class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Thats fine for botanist and miner but fishing isn't really the same, besides we should be looking at how long it takes to kill a monster vs how long it takes to gather.

    Mining 8 times on a node is much much much longer than it takes to kill one monster on a battle class.

    They should be comparitive, say if it takes me 1 mins to gain 100 sp as a battle class then it should be similar on a gathering class.
    1) it isnt the same as fishing, BUT with fishing you have 10 grades not 5 so you have options at the end

    2) mining 8 times gives you a TON of items
    fighting 1 mob doesnt, big difference, in gathering SP isnt the only goal, the farming of items in itself is alot more massive and is a tradeoff