Tanaka or Yoshi?

[darkstarpoet1]

Yes, thank you. Luckily I don't only just hit the 1 key but to reintiate an attack I have to hit 1 for heavy strike so I can do something else... Majority of those other 0 skill point basic attacks require you to hit the 1 key to even be able to use them, "you can only use pummel after heavy strike or pummel" "you can only use flurry after heavy strike or flurry" oh okay 1. heavy strike, pummel, than other key use up your TP, oh look I am hitting the 1 key again just to use flurry or pummel again or any other tp building move.... ah ya your right.... I don't have to use heavy strike to do something else....

incorrect

pummel is great for building fast tp. it is its own attack and you do not hit anything to use it.

light strike is used for evasion and mob debuffs. it is its own attack and you do not hit anything to use it.

heavy strike is used to initiate flurry, but also does extra damgae over the other basic attacks. it is its own attack.

flurry is a multi shot attack that gets tp and does multiple hits at once. it does require using heavy strike once.

so of those 4 basic attacks only 1 of them has any requirement to use it. i was just trying to show each basic attack on just that one class has its own individual usage. i am not trying to jump on you so don't take me that way. i was just trying to show that they had different uses and only one of those have a requirement to use another skill previous to using it.

[Shai]

I'm glad we all feel similarly about the battle system, excluding Xmbei.

I hope for lots of updates and info this week. I shouldn't get my hopes too high, though.

XI's battle system was boring. XIV's promise of a more interactive (and strategic) battle is what got me and some friends interested in XIV anyway and why we quit XI. This potential move backwards ... well, means I'll lose more friends in XIV.

I can't wait for that. -_-

[Nilheim]

So to sum things up, you're mad because he's going to change a broken battle system. You don't know what it will be like (hell, nobody does) but still you keep assuming it will suck. Well I say it can't be worse than what we have now. Just give it a chance.

And yes, story driven content was voted first but as I said in my post 3 pages ago (I'm not even sure if you bothered reading it because of the length or if you just flat out ignored it) they have to work on the heart of the game before they can start working on the rest. Again, why give us stuff now that they will need to work on again after the overhaul because of the changes? Besides, they already said the first wave of combat changes would come with that Dungeon thing, which sounds like story driven content to me.

And again, I see you saying Tanaka fixed this and that in 2 months. I see you talking about his vision. As I said before (again, I'm just writing a summary), he's the one who made that mess in the first place, so his vision didn't translate into anything but a big pile of shit that cost us all 50$.

[Xmbei]

Poet nothing I thought you said was jumping on me. Though I am pretty sure I proved my point with Shai's see we all agree except the one man in the corner. When even you said you are just skeptical. Heck Wow even has an auto attack you barely even notice it because the other abilities have quicker cooldowns, and have multiple other attacks that build up tp that also dehibilitate and such, and its a "good combat system" that uses auto attack. Just because he says we are getting auto attack shai and some others automatically think it's going to be FFXI auto attack, I could be wrong and when that day of release comes and proves me wrong I will take that defeat. This isn't Tanaka's show so I highly doubt we will get a XI auto attack, since Yoshi has played numerous different mmorpgs just like I have trying to find the next game to catch my attention, the only one so far to do it is FFXIV, maybe it is because I am a fan boy and see the promise in the game, but we need to let the dev's do what they do and release info and content when it is ready. Instead of just jumping conclusions and denouncing anything new as beiing bad do to the old ways.... Give it time everyone it we will all find out soon enough.

[darkstarpoet1]

Poet nothing I thought you said was jumping on me. Though I am pretty sure I proved my point with Shai's see we all agree except the one man in the corner. When even you said you are just skeptical. Heck Wow even has an auto attack you barely even notice it because the other abilities have quicker cooldowns, and have multiple other attacks that build up tp that also dehibilitate and such, and its a "good combat system" that uses auto attack. Just because he says we are getting auto attack shai and some others automatically think it's going to be FFXI auto attack, I could be wrong and when that day of release comes and proves me wrong I will take that defeat. This isn't Tanaka's show so I highly doubt we will get a XI auto attack, since Yoshi has played numerous different mmorpgs just like I have trying to find the next game to catch my attention, the only one so far to do it is FFXIV, maybe it is because I am a fan boy and see the promise in the game, but we need to let the dev's do what they do and release info and content when it is ready. Instead of just jumping conclusions and denouncing anything new as beiing bad do to the old ways.... Give it time everyone it we will all find out soon enough.

exactly. that's why i said a while ago that even though i worry about what it will be i will wait until it comes out try it and see how well it works. it could be absolutely fantastic and very enjoyable. only time will tell.

[SuzakuCMX]

So to sum things up, you're mad because he's going to change a broken battle system. You don't know what it will be like (hell, nobody does) but still you keep assuming it will suck. Well I say it can't be worse than what we have now. Just give it a chance.

And yes, story driven content was voted first but as I said in my post 3 pages ago (I'm not even sure if you bothered reading it because of the length or if you just flat out ignored it) they have to work on the heart of the game before they can start working on the rest. Again, why give us stuff now that they will need to work on again after the overhaul because of the changes? Besides, they already said the first wave of combat changes would come with that Dungeon thing, which sounds like story driven content to me.

And again, I see you saying Tanaka fixed this and that in 2 months. I see you talking about his vision. As I said before (again, I'm just writing a summary), he's the one who made that mess in the first place, so his vision didn't translate into anything but a big pile of shit that cost us all 50$.

Some people paid closer to $80 for the collector's edition.

[Kurokikaze]

Some people paid closer to $80 for the collector's edition.

Guilty. ;/

[Nuru]

Guilty. ;/

Yep. >.> Same for me, but I did it for the artwork, which also came out to be a disappointment. I thought i'd get to see many many concepts =/

[Munba]

but I did it for the artwork, which also came out to be a disappointment. I thought i'd get to see many many concepts =/

So do i.. sigh

[Nuru]

The ones in the journal are pretty good, but its repeats the same pictures. I really love Akihiko Yoshida's artwork >.<