Tanaka or Yoshi?

[Valmonte]

You do understand that the dungeons have physically been in the game since way before Yoshi took the reins?

is that right? all i remember are blocked off area's. besides your instanced into a new zone, a new map if you will. there is absolutely no reason why you cant have expansive area's inside this zone. is there a clause in the SE FFXIV development code book that says all Dungeons must contain a corridor(s), must contain 2 bosses and have at least one dotting mob or is it a simple cookie cutter solution?

[Starlord]

If it wasn't for Yoshi-P we wouldn't be playing an awesome game right now ( at least to me anyways) and its at least playable... When it was Tanaka.. we could barely play the game at all.. He had like 5-6 years to work on this MMO.. and to say it was "rushed" is out of the question.. He had all the time in the world to make this MMO, and he blew it horribly. Now its Yoshi-P's Turn to make things happen. ( In which he is).

Of course not everyone is going to like it.. but that's life right?

[Rokien]

If it wasn't for Yoshi-P we wouldn't be playing an awesome game right now ( at least to me anyways) and its at least playable... When it was Tanaka.. we could barely play the game at all.. He had like 5-6 years to work on this MMO.. and to say it was "rushed" is out of the question.. He had all the time in the world to make this MMO, and he blew it horribly. Now its Yoshi-P's Turn to make things happen. ( In which he is).

Of course not everyone is going to like it.. but that's life right?

It was playable, I had a lot of fun with tanakas game. I didn't complain once about tanaka

[Starlord]

It was playable, I had a lot of fun with tanakas game. I didn't complain once about tanaka

Playable... hardly.. Lagginess, buggy, took like 15 sec for anything to respond.. content was what... leves? Not really much of a MMO if you ask me :/.

[Valmonte]

If it wasn't for Yoshi-P we wouldn't be playing an awesome game right now ( at least to me anyways) and its at least playable... When it was Tanaka.. we could barely play the game at all.. He had like 5-6 years to work on this MMO.. and to say it was "rushed" is out of the question.. He had all the time in the world to make this MMO, and he blew it horribly. Now its Yoshi-P's Turn to make things happen. ( In which he is).

Of course not everyone is going to like it.. but that's life right?

i would agree with you, unfortunately we cant go back in time to see if Tanaka had what it took to steer this ship back on coarse. i just would like to think that given time Tanaka would have given us more content than Yoshi ever could. hell Yoshi spent more resources and time removing what Tanaka had accomplished, when instead he could have expanded on the New concepts created by Tanaka. 2.0 Is Yoshi FFXIV why take Tanaka version and neuter it...why spend all that time cutting replacing when you know its just a waist of time?

Jealousy, rivalry, who the hell knows.

ofcourse, its all just speculation.

[Starlord]

i would agree with you, unfortunately we cant go back in time to see if Tanaka had what it took to steer this ship back on coarse. i just would like to think that given time Tanaka would have given us more content than Yoshi ever could. hell Yoshi spent more resources and time removing what Tanaka had accomplished, when instead he could have expanded on the New concepts created by Tanaka. 2.0 Is Yoshi FFXIV why take Tanaka version and neuter it...why spend all that time cutting replacing when you know its just a waist of time?

Jealousy, rivalry, who the hell knows.

ofcourse, its all just speculation.

Because all that he "really" had planned was "Hamlet Defense" but thats not really enough content to shake a stick in a 6 month duration.

Regardless, He had so much time to get this MMO the right way before Launching it.. and he blew it.. in a 5-6 yr span the only Content in the game was Leves? I feel like he was lazing around and then did something on the last year.... That's the vibe I got when I first played the game and saw nothing but leve this leve that.. Sp per attack in which you could got 0 exp even if you hit the mob 100000 times >.>.

If Yoshi-P didn't come would their even be a forums? Without the Forums.. would we have this today? would we even have a FFXIV even? If it wasn't for Yoish-P we would be sinking underwater in its first FF name to Fail entirely!

THANK YOU YOSHI-P for turning this game around!

[Valmonte]

THANK YOU YOSHI-P for turning this game around!

turned it around...no this ship is still full of holes, and the people that jumped ship are still very wary of swimming back to this half sunken vessel.

[Starlord]

turned it around...no this ship is still full of holes, and the people that jumped ship are still very wary of swimming back to this half sunken vessel.

To you maybe, The game isn't Sunked, just people are sktechy on returning because of the bad tastes they still have in their Mouths.

and it seems like the 3-4 here disliking the game... They are other MMO's you know... or games you can play, other than a game you "dislike" or "not having fun"

[Keres]

The problems with Tanaka's vision for the game go far beyond "being rushed."

- Guildleves being the central focus of the entire game
- Absurdly repetitive zone maps and literally no diversity in geography from one end of a zone to another; the only difference being which camps allow you to do which levequests.
- Market wards/retainers (especially when you include the concept of "pay extra to get additional retainers")
- The ridiculously overwrought crafting recipes
- Stats doing pretty much nothing
- The Fatigue system
- Tanaka's quote shortly after launch to "just use macros" to solve the issue of not being able to communicate during combat
- Wanting to charge players per character slot in the year 2010

Many of these issues wouldn't have been solved no matter how much development time the game got; their problems aren't the implementation, but the concepts themselves. The terrible UI and game engine performance might have improved a little, but given the trouble that the current development team is having while attempting to add new features to this engine, I don't even think that more development time would have solved those problems either.

Now we're looking at getting the game maps redone, the market ward system is no longer quite as terrible, guildleves are repurposed as solo-oriented content as they're more properly suited, and the class and battle systems have been fundamentally redesigned from the ground up to allow for actual dynamic and balanced battle design.

Yoshi-P coming in was the only hope that this game had to save itself, and it was the best thing that could have happened to it. At launch, I didn't think any of us would be here today still able to play the game, and now we're just a few months away from an amazing-looking 2.0 relaunch. Tanaka has a great legacy of games, but his ideas in FFXIV just didn't work out, unfortunately. The game is better off now.

[Ricky]

Yoshi for sure, you can tell he has actually played the type of game he is developing