Why Leave After 3 Mins?

[RowanLauron]

The problem isn't that AF = bad, it's just the fact that people can't perform well enough with it. They need better gear to make-up for the lack of skill they have. Sure the better gear helps, but it only improves your performance at your current skill level. You can tell the difference even comparing people with top gear. The better play will always do more damage/healing/tanking. Where you can REALLY see the difference is when the better skilled players out perform better geared people with less gear. Iv'e seen it happen before.

I wish everyone would stop with "gear makes you good" attitude. It's a cop-out.

[Rhas]

Because why would I waste my time with a group who shouldn't even be in the Titan queue? It's the people who queue in level 45 armor that are causing Square to implement GearScore. I'm definitely not going to heal a tank who is wearing gear he crafted himself that has no materia.

Please go back to WoW.... soon. Its attitude like that is part of the problem, not the solution. We can say the same right back at you, if you want to go with people you consider "geared" for the fight, then hand select your people and go with them and stop wasting everyone's time who wants to give it a shot even if they can't complete it.

[Darkrotor]

So a Bard in AF can't do enough dps to complete this fight? Is there a why? What piece of gear makes them able to attempt this?

If I get the Darklight body, is that +6 Dex and less Crit going to make me able to obliterate all?

[Sub-Xero]

Yes... because all those people speed spamming Castrum Meridianum for DL gear are automatically better than others that have not. In fact, I just got done with a "speed run" of Castrum Meridianum where almost everyone sucked. Got full DL but can't dodge big red circle moves?... You're awesome! /sarcasm

[Hachiko]

I wish everyone would stop with "gear makes you good" attitude. It's a cop-out.

Gear is necessary but not sufficient. Skill is the same. Necessary but not sufficient. You can't "out skill" a DPS check if your gear only lets you hit 130 when you need to be doing 180.

Gear doesn't make you good, but you need gear to beat the encounters. Why people are willing to ignore this and wail about player skill, like they're god's gift to FFXIV (or any MMO) is something I've never understood.

Skill doesn't prevent you from getting 1shot by unavoidable area wide aoe hits. Skill alone won't make it possible for you to hit the DPS threshold to take down the heart in time.

[RowanLauron]

Skill doesn't prevent you from getting 1shot by unavoidable area wide aoe hits. Skill alone won't make it possible for you to hit the DPS threshold to take down the heart in time.

True, but until we see what the restrictions will be it'll be anyone's guess. If they allow people in with full AF and some lower level accessories then obviously the encounter can be defeated without needing the best gear available.

That said, I agree with everything you said. I'm mainly pointing out the people who blatantly refuse to party with people just by examining gear and not giving them a chance. Which is what a lot of people are doing.

[Slambo]

I'm mainly pointing out the people who blatantly refuse to party with people just by examining gear and not giving them a chance. Which is what a lot of people are doing.

It's not another players job to hep someone who doesn't help themselves. A few Wanderer's Palace runs go a long way.

[RowanLauron]

It's not another players job to hep someone who doesn't help themselves. A few Wanderer's Palace runs go a long way.

You assume I'm only referring to people who don't want to put forth any effort, but while true, a lot of people who legitimately need help won't get it because people assume they either won't help themselves, or are bad because their gear is bad therefore the person must be bad. Too many bad apples spoiled the bunch so to speak on bith sides.

There are people who want to be carried through everything, but there are just as many who legitimately need help and can't get it for various reasons. They stay undergeared because there are more people who ignore them/won't help vs people willing to help.

You can say those people need to join a FC, but what if they don't play during prime time or aren't on when there are FC people to help or are lone wolfs who depend on the community and pugs? It's not their fault they're alone...at least not 100% their fault. We can go back and forth all day, but I think we're both right. Just depends on which person you are and who you play with.

[Prototype909]

So a Bard in AF can't do enough dps to complete this fight? Is there a why? What piece of gear makes them able to attempt this?

If I get the Darklight body, is that +6 Dex and less Crit going to make me able to obliterate all?

Small numbers make a big difference in this game. DPS checks like Titan's heart are won or lost based on pure DD output. It's bad enough that the duty finder puts you in an unfavorable position by only having 4 DDs (Groups that have beaten it often use 5 DDs or 3 healers instead of 2 tanks) but when you add people coming in with anything but optimized gear it quickly becomes a problem. You have to make the absolute most out of the 4 DDs you have.

[LunarEmerald]

So a Bard in AF can't do enough dps to complete this fight? Is there a why? What piece of gear makes them able to attempt this?

If I get the Darklight body, is that +6 Dex and less Crit going to make me able to obliterate all?

For the heart phase, you seriously need every little bit that you can. It's a strict dps check. Everybody needs to be on the ball and dealing high dps to kill it in time. Doing 10 less damage every attack can be the difference between victory and defeat.