If you're pulling with Provoke you're doing it wrong

[Viridiana]

For everyone suggesting using Provoke to pull groups of enemies, why not let your ranged classes do the actual pulling and provoke off of them?

[Amyas]

For everyone suggesting using Provoke to pull groups of enemies, why not let your ranged classes do the actual pulling and provoke off of them?

Well, it would work, that's for sure, but with 'voke you keep hate the whole time. Should, anyway, if you use your combo and flash if its a group. Really hope they give tomahawk a range boost though, but as it is, in most dungeons you're using provoke to pull single mobs that move through groups that are linked, which is a lot more common than people here are saying.

[Viridiana]

I always find it amusing to go into a thread about how to do your job and its almost always written by somebody who doesn't do your job but knows better.

Yeah, any time I tell someone else they're doing their job wrong, it's because I'm absolutely certain they're messing up, so it's probably something fundamental, because BRD is my only 50 since ARR. That said, *most* of the time, pulling with Provoke is something I try to correct. Using it to range pull is understandable, but still makes me wince.

Well, it would work, that's for sure, but with 'voke you keep hate the whole time. Should, anyway, if you use your combo and flash if its a group. Really hope they give tomahawk a range boost though.

Maybe it's because all I've been running lately is Wanderer's and Amdapor, but I can't think of any pulls where you both need to range pull and can't afford to lose aggro for the 1 GCD it should take to re-establish hate.

[Amyas]

Maybe it's because all I've been running lately is Wanderer's and Amdapor, but I can't think of any pulls where you both need to range pull and can't afford to lose aggro for the 1 GCD it should take to re-establish hate.

I guess it doesn't matter much, as a tank though I feel like my worth is determined by always being on the top of the hate list and always having all mobs on me. In AK there are the Dullahans and the four seperate groups of three enemies right before Demon Wall is a good example of needing ranged pulls, Wanderer's has a few spots too, like the pugil and gear grease mobs at that second chest, plus the last of the three tonberries just after you beat the goobue boss.

Then again, you're correct, we could just let ranged players pull and provoke off of them, though the only case you'll need that is if its a War tank that doesn't have provoke, but the War shouldn't have that much trouble pulling it off of you without it.