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  1. #1
    Player
    Avatar von rzr22
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    Character
    Amarant Morteza
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Beschwörer Lv 60

    If you're pulling with Provoke you're doing it wrong

    That's how you insta-spot a nub tank.

    And shame on you SE for allowing such a horrible tooltip into the final game.
    (4)

  2. #2
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    I guess I'm a noob. It's a long range pull. Sometimes you need to, sometimes you don't and shield lob would do. But certain situations might call for it.
    (18)

  3. #3
    Player
    Avatar von Alcyon_Densetsu
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    Character
    Alcyon Densetsu
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Zitat Zitat von NoctisCaelus Beitrag anzeigen
    I guess I'm a noob. It's a long range pull. Sometimes you need to, sometimes you don't and shield lob would do. But certain situations might call for it.
    The problem is that you waste a very valuable skill, put on cooldown for 40 sec, for absolutely no advantage: provoke does no aggro. You'll still have to lob, flash or throw a few damage abilities in order to hold aggro beyond your DD's first skill or your healer's first heal.

    Provoke puts you on top of the aggro list, but that's all it does: immediately after, you're bound to go down this list if you don't do anything else. Which means that it's invaluable if your objective is to get back a mob to you: provoke then lob does wonders to do that. Typically, after pulling with lob then flashing the whole pack, if some DDs go crazy on AoE, or your healer needs to put some heavy curing out there, chances are a mob will go to them: that's when provoke is your best friend, followed by something else to keep you on top of the aggro list for some time.

    Keeping Provoke as a "panic button" is probably the best way to use it when regular means don't work, or the mob is too far away from you and for some reason you wish to stay where you are and force the mob to come back.
    (11)

  4. #4
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    Zitat Zitat von Alcyon_Densetsu Beitrag anzeigen
    Snip.
    I never had a problem with aggro. That's cause if I lure, my team knows to wait for me to generate necessary hate as well after I positioned them. You don't always need to save your provokes.
    (3)

  5. #5
    Player
    Avatar von rzr22
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    Character
    Amarant Morteza
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Beschwörer Lv 60
    Certainly you can deduce I am speaking of those that use it 100% of the time.
    (2)

  6. #6
    Player Avatar von Syfin
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    Character
    Syfin Cross
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Marodeur Lv 50
    Thanks for stating the obvious.
    (3)

  7. #7
    Player
    Avatar von rzr22
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    Character
    Amarant Morteza
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Beschwörer Lv 60
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    Thanks for stating the obvious.
    You'd think it would be. Try leveling up a DPS or even a healer in pug dungeons. If you aren't raging 90% of the time, you're one lucky person.
    (0)

  8. #8
    Player
    Avatar von KiriA500
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    Aug 2011
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    Ul'dah
    Beiträge
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    Character
    Doctor Beatbox
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Faustkämpfer Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von rzr22 Beitrag anzeigen
    You'd think it would be. Try leveling up a DPS or even a healer in pug dungeons. If you aren't raging 90% of the time, you're one lucky person.
    Or you're a person who doesn't get mad at video games.
    (5)

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  10. #10
    Player
    Avatar von joshdavis271
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Josh Davis
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    I use provoke to grab the enemy who is attack my healer of course I follow up with flash and rage combo for good measure.
    (5)

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