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  1. #61
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    I've never been impressed with a summoner's damage output throughout the many dungeons I've run. Anytime the second dps was a summoner, everything felt slow.
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  2. #62
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by savant07 View Post
    What is considered high then? I mean, and I doubt, bards can even reach that high. Monks probably, dragoons probably not. Black mages by far could...
    Oh, you're ridiculous.

    In your other thread, I posted an utterly underpowered breakout of BRD damage, and it would parse at 179. Just adding in 20% crit (10% base and 10% Straight Shot) boosts it to 196, still not factoring in any buffs or River of Blood procs. Adding in the River of Blood procs (and underestimating them, still) puts us at 214. This is still without any buffs aside from Straight Shot. Do I really need to go on, or will you just accept that BRD actually does good dps instead of insisting--despite all evidence given to the contrary--that we're the weakest DD?
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  3. #63
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    Ashen Valanar
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Base crit is 10%?

    Also a summoner doing 230 DPS in an encounter where it is not fully tank and spank and has movement...imagine how much they can do in an encounter where they are free to DPS!

    Though I guess you do have a point in your calculations. I'm just hoping we don't scale off in later gear levels as we do not have weapon damage or traits that give insane % damage of the black mage/summoners.

    I wish parsers worked...
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  4. #64
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by savant07 View Post
    Base crit is 10%?
    I haven't personally tested my crit %. However, a FC mate did run a parser with me in group once, and I believe he reported me as having a ~30% crit rate, though that obviously includes Straight Shot and Internal Release. If I factor out the 10% from Straight Shot, I'm down to 20%. The 30% from Internal release, even if I used it every time it's up, can account for no more than 1/6 of the reported crit rate (it can affect more DOTs, but DOTs aren't covered in the parser anyway), meaning it can only account for at most 5% of the observed crit rate. That leaves me with at least 15% crits between the base chance and the Straighter Shot procs.
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  5. #65
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    thendcomes's Avatar
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    Octopus Royalty
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    The current version of the parser may not be totally accurate, but it's pretty close right now as of the update from a few days ago. A couple of us calculated what my approximate DPS would be based on actual damage from all my skills on a dummy (like tn2389 earlier) and it was coming out to about the same as the parser.

    I'm currently parsing at 280 on Titan and 350-360 on Turn 1. Relic and full Darklight except for pants.
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