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  1. #31
    Player
    Riffy's Avatar
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    Gil Witten
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Class already has great dps and mobility with the least amount of effort
    ????
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    Last edited by Riffy; 09-10-2013 at 11:45 PM.

  2. #32
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kobolt View Post
    Please define the difference between an Archer and a Ranger, cause they're practically the same thing.
    Gladiator and Warrior? Aren't they the same thing too?
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  3. #33
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    KirinNight's Avatar
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    Sifa Nifael
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 35
    Quote Originally Posted by Kobolt View Post
    Please define the difference between an Archer and a Ranger, cause they're practically the same thing.
    Ranger does not mean "ranged fighter". The word has nothing to do with bows, specifically. The historical use of the word ranger is to denote a skirmisher, or roaming warrior, with any kind of weapons. That's also why in DnD a ranger can specialize in a lot of things, not just bows. Aragorn from Lord of the Rings for example is a Ranger, but mostly used a sword.

    Ranger and Archer do not mean the same thing. The more you know!
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  4. #34
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    Silvyaniss's Avatar
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    Silvyaniss Lydileera
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I might just put the game away until this gets fixed....No I don't want to be any other class because I love the archer class
    but SE spoon feeding us this Job Bard is freaking ridiculous....everytime I play Bard I feel gimped because of it...If I take off
    my Bard gear I loose DEX again forcing us...SE just make another class that way you can have 2 archer types support and DPS
    let us chose one...don't CHOSE ONE FOR US!!
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  5. #35
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    Maduin's Avatar
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    Character
    Grey Maduin
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Using your bow as an instrument is just silly. There's an empty off-hand slot so why not just give us musical instruments?

    To prevent them being op have the only stats on them be a buff to our songs.
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  6. #36
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    TheKojukinator's Avatar
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    Character
    Athena Joseibi
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Am I the only one under the impression that there are only THREE kinds of limit break types, because there are only THREE party roles: Tank, DPS, Healer? And within each role there are actually three limit breaks, depending on how many bars were charged.

    If I am not mistaken, then complaining about Bard's limit break is silly... because it's the same limit break that all other DPS classes/jobs have. As far as I understand, there is no Job that ever changes the base Class' role... meaning a Tank never turns in to DPS with a job crystal. Thus, a Bard is still DPS because an Archer is DPS... even if Bards were completely awesome debuffers/buffers and had shitty dps, they are still based on the Archer class and the game still counts them as DPS so we'd have the DPS limit breaks.

    Sooooo... if I am not mistaken, this thread is a poopie head?

    As a side note, I agree that as a Job the Bard is underwhelming... but in spirit I am rooting for it still.
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  7. #37
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    Reika Nikaidoh
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 74
    I am not one for posting on the forums as you can tell with my amazing post count...
    that being said...

    When I started back up in 2.0, I started playing an Arcanist putting my Bard on hold for now but looking forward to playing her later on, I finally logged her in today to find out that 3 of my songs (Madrigal of Sorrow) a HP restore, (Minuet of Rigor) and attack and accuracy raise were completely gone, (Battle Voice) was changed from a HP increase to double the songs effectiveness, and (Ballad of the Magi) went from raising party MP to now costing me DPS to do it. (Rain of Death and Paeon of War) the only 2 untouched songs.

    Now im crying on the inside as I write this as my Bard was my favorite character, so If I am wrong about this please correct me cause form the looks of it they took 2 good skills messed up a 3rd one and in there place gave me a cheesy elemental song I have no use for and a crappy Limit Break.

    I do not even look forward to playing now =/
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  8. #38
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    Diavolo's Avatar
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    Maximilian Vitalis
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    It's a good limit break to have if your healer dies, you're about to beat a boss, and you're all low on HP. Just sayin'. It honestly doesn't bother me, though. If I can lend my MP to the healer so that he/she can keep us alive without worrying about MP draining badly, then it's fine by me. Archer to bard makes sense in the lore. I'd like to see a ranger class, nonetheless.
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  9. #39
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    Rydin's Avatar
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    Nyris Reach
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    It's a good limit break to have if your healer dies, you're about to beat a boss, and you're all low on HP. Just sayin'. It honestly doesn't bother me, though. If I can lend my MP to the healer so that he/she can keep us alive without worrying about MP draining badly, then it's fine by me. Archer to bard makes sense in the lore. I'd like to see a ranger class, nonetheless.
    No one is saying the limit break isn't useful. the main point is it doesn't fit what bard has become.
    It's like turning the WHM limit break into a big cannon that does more damage than the melee LB. Sure it would be useful... and it might even win a few fights... but it would be awkward and out of place given what a WHM is.
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  10. #40
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    Syndication's Avatar
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    Character
    Eden Weiss
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    As a bard during runs, I found extra heals like my cross class second wind heal to not really be needed because my WHM is on top of his game and they only really depend on me for the MP recover song. Alas I am only lvl37 and can't speak for EG but this is my personal experience. As for the Limit Break, it is good we still have some sort of heal ever since our healing cross class skills from CNJ got taken from us.
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