If you are a WHM without Swiftcast, you are holding back your team at endgame

[Riviere]

Everyone should be prepared for endgame content, specially if it's through DF. If you have any doubts about your class, drop by the class forums and ask for advice, there are many good and experienced players around.

[Dreamer]

So your excuse for deliberately holding back your healing potential for your team is...."everyone else in my team should get better"? Stop making excuses and learn Swiftcast. It has many uses beyond just raising, and to make excuses to NOT Learn it while still hoping to participate in endgame is going to get you laughed at, nothing more.

Asking the entire party to work towards a smooth run instead of relying on a swiftcast raise from the WHM as a crutch isn't an excuse, it's common sense.

[Boyahd]

I fear this entire discussion is in danger of going off its tracks, so allow me to fix that:

We're all agreeing that Swiftcast is a must-have for WHM/SCHs because of the overwhelming beneficial use. The extra argument about the proper response from a WHM given Swiftcast to when a DPS player makes a stupid and fatal move is entirely out of the scope of the discussion.

[Tigerwong]

The title would have been better with "If you are a WHM without Swiftcast, you do not qualify for end game raid". I also have 7 colleagues playing together and we Skype in dungeons runs. Watching each others' backs means yelling to dodge things and preventing any death for us. I'm not sure why that has to mean instant-res for some

[Dorin]

The title would have been better with "If you are a WHM without Swiftcast, you do not qualify for end game raid". I also have 7 colleagues playing together and we Skype in dungeons runs. Watching each others' backs means yelling to dodge things and preventing any death for us. I'm not sure why that has to mean instant-res for some

Occasional lag says hello

[Rythless]

So many badasses in this thread that never die at endgame.

Just because you're not supposed to die doesn't mean that shit doesn't happen. Not having all the best tools available to you is like being a fire fighter and showing up to a fire with only your water hose because "People are supposed to exit the house when it's burning. I shouldn't need my axe and oxygen mask." Shit happens, be prepared.

[Tule]

Who are you even talking to? Who in this thread has even said that they don't want Swiftcast or won't get it? Seems like the only problem in this thread is the tone of the people who feel entitled to tell healers how fast they want to be raised.

The very first reply. Not necessarily saying don't use swiftcast, but implying he should never have to and you are bad if you make him. And other similar sentiments.

[VitoScaletta]

Not sure if its been mentioned but...use Medica II as SOON as the guy accepts raise and you will remove his weakness. I didn't know this until someone told me in DF .

[NintenPyjak64]

A good party does not die. But a bad party with instant raise CAN put it up a notch. Why do people always have to argue with the extremes.

So far i've been in DF runs where if the whm had swiftcast raise, the party could've continued and recovered. I was running as smn btw and jnsta raising ppl. I'm seeing people return almost instantly which doesnt help the party at all, and it just seems people either do not have the concept that they could be raised or just gives up raising and saying it wastes time. Wheres the 1.0 spirit gone when half the party is dead and you can still get back up and recover

I can't count how many PUG Garuda runs I would have won if the Healers had Swiftcast + Raise (and if the Tanks could freakin' position the damn Sisters better but that's not this thread)

[Evangela]

If I'm casting raise YOU are doing it wrong. you show me a fight with a guaranteed 1 shot to someone (every time) and I'll agree with you though.

You show me a proof that you never died in dungeons and I'll agree with you, genius.