YOSHI FIX THE DANG GIL ISSUE THAT IS KILLING OUR PLAYERS!!!

[Schdawn]

While I sympathize with all the high level players who got broke from the repair cost from doing end-game content, I believe this is the developers' faces right now



This high repair cost bill is probably put in place for the time being to stop people who rush to end content from doing end game content too much. The'll probably lower the repair cost for high level gears when the end-content-rushers move on to another game and more casual players hit end game.

[Chiruru53]

lol some of these people powered their way to level 50 did not bother to do any tradecrafts now upset oh well.

I know what you're saying, but I think that people, the OP included, are complaining that the gil fountain isn't in their Inn Room. Endgamers are used to raking in fountain gil from endgame activities. FFXIV isn't set up like that and they are QQing about it. FFXIV has tiny gil fountains all over the game to spread the gil out over all players instead of making the fountain endgame heavy.
So now that endgamers have to actually work to make gil instead of having it handed to them from their endgame activities, they are QQing all over the place and inventing this gil issue. Its fairly humorous to watch actually.

What part of "I did not rush to 50" do you not comprehend? I have only worked on weaver since 2.0 has began.I have worked on the storyline at a steady pace, farmed mats, sold things on the market boards. as soon as something sells, I need repairs, and look, I Just lost the gil I made. Please stop with the horrible, inaccurate accusations that do not describe me at all.

I didn't grind fates and made 300k on just leveling my arcanist to 50. I think the OP is whining at the wrong tree.

That's a one time thing. I completed the story as well, and only leveled weaver in 2.0 and it's only 40ish, and I have only the money I had when I completed. If you read my original post, which you obviously didn't, I have not made any more money or any less. I am dancing between 190-200k and have not gone over, despite my continued efforts. If you think playing the AH is helping the economy, you're sorely mistaken. so please, read before you post.

[SukoshiSeppen]

Alot of short term answers but SE wants long term. And I believe our current prices are overinflated on the market board already. And once I hit 50 it became pretty simple to hq the level 45 leve items. I would use leves for gil if it worth more. But craft for craft market board is more.

They stated this game is great for casual play...do casuals do hardcore dungeon crawls? Not really. The 6 leves for gil per day would cover a normal casual players daily repair costs. If you want to do more dungeons wouldnt it make sense that you would need more daily gil? SE leaves that to you as a player to figure out.

And for those who dont know it. .. realize one of the best ways to make gil is fates but not the actual gil from fates. Invest in a full set of gear that gives tier 3 materia. This should be your im to strong for this content gear. A. Cheaper repairs B. Convert to materia. 11 or 12 items for convert at once is a hefty gil day.

[Majidah]

I didn't grind fates and made 300k on just leveling my arcanist to 50. I think the OP is whining at the wrong tree.

[Quesse]

What part of "I did not rush to 50" do you not comprehend? I have only worked on weaver since 2.0 has began.I have worked on the storyline at a steady pace, farmed mats, sold things on the market boards. as soon as something sells, I need repairs, and look, I Just lost the gil I made. Please stop with the horrible, inaccurate accusations that do not describe me at all.

I did not make any horrrible inaccurate accusation?? Beyond saying your argument is false - I think I have a right to say that!

See now you're just complaining that even though you farm/craft its not enough for repairs - repairs are too expensive. That is a completely different issue.

Your original issue was that you couldn't personally fate/quest enough gil to cover repairs. My position is that the TOTAL player base of 20000+ characters provides more that enough gil to cover the repair gil sink of the endgame few. You can't prove that it doesn't.

By the way, thanks for NINJA EDITING your post with this new info and using my reply. Very classy.

I guess you missed this so I'll post it again:

There is not a one to one relationship between hardcore grinding endgamers and gil creators!!!! Your entire argument is based on "assuming" (as you say) that there is!

You have to use the total amount of gil created over time from the ENTIRE economy. This would be 7800 people connected at a given time using Yoshi's numbers. Take that number and multiply it by X gil generated per hour by one character doing fates/leves. Then subtract from it the small percentage grinding endgame 24x7. As more people get to endgame level, more will join, and some will leave. This cycle continues - as long as it does (and here is where it is still theory not fact on both sides) there should be gil generated.

You purport that Endgamers should be generating gil for themselves to cover repairs. NO, they shouldn't. The entire economy generates gil. Players A,B,C generate gil, Endgame Player D has to do work to gather/craft/farm and sell to Player A/B/C - that is perfectly valid. It is not valid to expect that Endgame Player D will have gil directly handed to him - it comes form the economy as a WHOLE.

So YES, crafting and gathering are valid ways for endgamers to get gil as they sell to those that generate it. They just don't generate it themselves.

/sigh... this is just too complicated to understand I guess. >.>;

But why not have an intelligent discussion? I'm not attacking anyone! I'm just putting down a valid argument.
Why do you treat it as an attack and then don't even include my argument in your post but just trash everyone who disagrees?

[Majidah]

That's a one time thing. I completed the story as well and I have only the money I had when I completed. If you read my original post, which you obviously didn't, I have not made any more money or any less. I am dancing between 190-200k and have not gone over, despite my continued efforts. If you think playing the AH is helping the economy, you're sorely mistaken. so please, read before you post.

Those 300k are seed money, genius.

Grind Am keep, buy the items for Rosegold earrings. Use that money to pay a crafter to create them. There you got, millions.

God.

[Lockisezmode]

I didn't grind fates and made 300k on just leveling my arcanist to 50. I think the OP is whining at the wrong tree.

Thank you for proving you do not have reading comprehension. Please move along post oblivious and or trolling remarks somewhere else.

[ufufu]

The issue is that at the current rate of accumulation gil just isn't sustainable right now. It's honestly ridiculous. I was doing tradeleves yesterday, and of course I wanted to turn in HQ items for the 200% bonus rewards. When I completed the leves, I realized that the gil reward – including bonus – didn't even cover the cost of the base materials I used to make them. Why in the world am I completing quests at a freaking loss? Yes, okay, I could conceivably gouge item prices on the market board to keep myself afloat financially, but the thing is that players should not have to do that just to make enough money to keep playing the game. It's absurd.

Meanwhile, you're perfectly able to farm XP at a ridiculous rate. The rewards need some serious tweaking.

[Chiruru53]

Those 300k are seed money, genius.

Grind Am keep, buy the items for Rosegold earrings. Use that money to pay a crafter to create them. There you got, millions.

God.

You honestly think anyone will pay for overpriced earrings at this point with the economy like this when they can get darklight for free?? really? Don't make me laugh.

That is still playing the AH. No one has the gil right now really to blow on things like that. wanna know how I know? because I have had those earrings for a while and no one has bought them to the point I've given up. so your "solution" is flawed.


God.

[Ruthless22]

I bought a piece of gear on accident from an NPC the other day for like around 6500 gil. I realized I didn't want it and went to sell it back to him to get at least a portion of some money back, and the selling price turned out to be a lousy 23 gil. WTF! There's a huge problem right there.