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  1. #71
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    Brynmor's Avatar
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    Zaia Solanaa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
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    Firstly, The Chaos Thrust Rotation isn't "powerful". I was basing this off the most powerful skill we could do. Secondly, the Dots ARE NOT AFFECTED by external buffs like Heavy Thrust and Blood for Blood. That's why I was using Thrust Combo as an example, because it's the hardest hitting rotation that a DRG has.

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    Sorry but that's just flat out wrong. Go find a target dummy and apply Phlebotomize without any buffs and watch the damage ticks. Then do it with Heavy Thrust up, then with Heavy Thrust and Blood for Blood up. Not only do they benefit from the buffs but if you apply a DoT with buffs up and the buffs fade before the DoT does the DoT still ticks as if you had the buffs. DoTs in F14:ARR are 'snapshot' style. They use your stats and buffs from when you applied the DoT for the entirety of the DoT's duration.
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  2. #72
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    Prophez's Avatar
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    Bryant Snow
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 50
    To change the subject a little, what would be a beneficial DoH profession for a DRG? I was told either Armorsmith or Carpenter, but outside of repairs with Armorsmith...i don't know what the benefits of each Profession would be.
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  3. #73
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Brynmor View Post
    Sorry but that's just flat out wrong. Go find a target dummy and apply Phlebotomize without any buffs and watch the damage ticks. Then do it with Heavy Thrust up, then with Heavy Thrust and Blood for Blood up. Not only do they benefit from the buffs but if you apply a DoT with buffs up and the buffs fade before the DoT does the DoT still ticks as if you had the buffs. DoTs in F14:ARR are 'snapshot' style. They use your stats and buffs from when you applied the DoT for the entirety of the DoT's duration.
    Unless they changed it from Phase 3, when myself and multiple others tested out DoTs, then I apologize for my misinformation. I'll test it myself once the servers are back up.
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  4. #74
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    JonnyBNoHo's Avatar
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    Purrina Catchow
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 34
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Heavy Thrust Test 2


    Without Heavy Thrust

    True Thrust - 159.95
    Vorpal Thrust - 213.75
    Full Thrust - 319.89
    True Thrust - 159.95
    Vorpal Thrust - 213.75
    Full Thrust - 319.89
    Impulse Drive - 191.93

    Total = 1579.11

    With Heavy Thrust

    For this, I will not use Impulse Drive, and replace it with the Heavy Thrust at the beginning of the Rotation.

    Heavy Thrust - 106.63
    Now 10% Heavy Thrust buff activates
    True Thrust - 175.95
    Vorpal Thrust - 234.59
    Full Thrust - 351.88
    True Thrust - 175.95
    Vorpal Thrust - 234.59
    Full Thrust - 351.88

    Total: 1631.47
    Question: Why is Heavy Thrust only doing 106.63 damage? Shouldn't it be doing 181.27 assuming that you are flaking when using it (170 potency when flaking)? Or does the 170 potency no longer exist (can't login to confirm right now)?
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  5. #75
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    Ayvar Bjornstad
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyBNoHo View Post
    Question: Why is Heavy Thrust only doing 106.63 damage? Shouldn't it be doing 181.27 assuming that you are flaking when using it (170 potency when flaking)? Or does the 170 potency no longer exist (can't login to confirm right now)?
    Looks like someone forgot somethinggggggggg
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    Error 3102, 90000, 1017, 2002, 2/3 survivor

  6. #76
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    Ambacht's Avatar
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    Kuro Kenshi
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 60

    Still an armor issue

    Dring my way to lvl 50 I've encountered some things I find curious.
    Most ppl say that mail is for Lancers, I agreed with this since I sounded logical.
    Now on quest rewards and even on story line you most get leather, now comes the tricky part.
    The leather does have lesser armor and has dex wich doesn't really have use for lnc/drg, but since the leather has 2 secondary stats and mail only one. This doesn't make gearing any easier and I end up taking the leather gear since it has better overall stats.
    Is there anyone to clarify this? Do we just wear both untill 50 or is this a error SE made in specifying our gear??
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  7. #77
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    ElaintheShy's Avatar
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    Ovrlord Etna
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    Coeurl
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    does disembowel affect everyone's piercing damage or just yours? the tool tip makes it sound like only 1 person needs to be using the disembowel combo
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  8. #78
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    Julianne Dragonhope
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Don't forget that Heavy Thrust bonus is also applied to any normal swings that you automatically fit into any rotation.
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  9. #79
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    Loki Ragnarok
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    Is all the dragoon armor sets the same color or is there different color sets.
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  10. #80
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 70
    From which level is worth to use materia on dragoon? or it is better just to level up and wait till end game?
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