Yeah, I feel ya, it doesnt make sense.Everything ends with "But the repairs make it a loss".
Simple solution: Remove repairs.
I lose more durability and have to pay more for repairs if I full clear a dungeon and kill all trash than if I skip all trash, die once per boss at the door then get ressed(x3) and only kill bosses.
How does that make any sense?
To be honest, the main thing I want to spend my gold on is Player Housing when it comes out. The Market hasnt' been kind, and doing CM is costing me a ton of Gil. I'm actually put off from doing a lot of end game content for fear of loosing even more Gil. even 100 leves at the 45 guy only yeild 55K at best. Minus however much in repairs. Which could be more then half. I'm not asking to be a billionare over night, but a way that generates Gil instead of loosing it. People are even reluctant to use the market, and would rather do all the crafting and gathering themselves.
Sadly the only way you will make money as someone else put it is leveling a alt or several at that.
Put some cheap item on the market that equals roughly what you alt gathered leveling 1-50 doing quests and have them buy it to fund your main and then deleting them afterwords to rinse and repeat, mind you this time consuming and is not idea but sadly I see no other way you would get a influx of new gil since SE seem to want to be tight lipped or not even acknowledged there is a issue.

I actually agree with the opener... there aren't enough ways to make moneys.
I don't know how with crafting, but there may be people that do not like crafting at all, fighting doesn't give you money in any way.



After some checks with the GC seal cost. I'm convinced that they need some serious revision. 10,050 seals for 10 grade 5 dark matter is just absurd and only serve to make the repair system more unusable. The prohibitively high costs and restrictions of self repair needs to change.
i hope something is done soon, or i wont be able to afford to log in.

They may be hoping this gil-drain will even out the high levels who will be first to start running dungeons over and over. Wasting their gil on repairs. After a few weeks, they will remove durability costs and in their minds even the playing field between 1.0 and ARR.
Regardless, I will wait and see. Its too early for me to worry about the economy. 2 weeks in.
bumping this back to top... I'm so scare now I dont even want to level. I honestly hate the idea of "repairs" as a general. I pay per month to play irl, then I have to pay again to play in game - not to mention no matter how you try or how you see it, repairing just cannot be something fun.
the crazy amounts of gil sellers shouting also worries me more. If they get banned, the gils in their possession will be permanently lost from the economy.



People said Gathering/Crafting is useless in FFXIV.... oh wait.... how do i not run out of Gil then?
There are many, many ways to make Gil. If people can not figure it themself and need even hand-holding for that, then i am sorry but NO!
And how can people complain about the only Penalty we are getting from fighting? You do not even lose Exp, just Durability on Gear. Do not have enough money to repair your Gear? Stop spaming the same Dungeon over and over and do something to fill your pockets. I seriously have no kind of sympathy for greedy people, which want their pockets filled magically, while running the same content over and over.
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