People WHO WANT A REAL SUMMONER pet class

[Nyel]

I like the Summoner as it is right now.

I can summong weaker types of Primae, I have DoT's and I really love Fester.

As a whole the class is completely fine.

We only need some balance. DoT's ( or at least 2 of our 3 main DoT's ) without cast time / global cooldown, maybe an increased damage for Ruin, increased damage / utility for Tri-desaster and yeah - at least some love for the egis.

And this class would be great.

If the Summoner is not what you want it to be, then don't play it. I play the summonere because it reminds me of my WoW Warlock.

You are not in the position, KingBerry, to judge whether summoner is a summoner or is no summoner. I like the class and SE made it as a DoT-class with pets. What's your point?

[abesut]

I like the Summoner as it is right now.

I can summong weaker types of Primae, I have DoT's and I really love Fester.

As a whole the class is completely fine.

We only need some balance. DoT's ( or at least 2 of our 3 main DoT's ) without cast time / global cooldown, maybe an increased damage for Ruin, increased damage / utility for Tri-desaster and yeah - at least some love for the egis.

And this class would be great.

If the Summoner is not what you want it to be, then don't play it. I play the summonere because it reminds me of my WoW Warlock.

You are not in the position, KingBerry, to judge whether summoner is a summoner or is no summoner. I like the class and SE made it as a DoT-class with pets. What's your point?

I guess you don't know what a real summoner is? and the fact that you just said it reminds you of your WoW warlock, just shows that there is a real problem with the job :P

[Nyel]

No, it's not.

I know what a Summoner is.

But there is nowhere a testimonial about what Summoners should be and shouldn't be. SE goes its own way with this "Summoner".

Summoner = summons "something"

And yeah, we summon different pets. That's it. Nothing else.

If you don't confirm with their way of the Summoner... hey, that's your problem, not theirs.

[KingBerry]

No, it's not.

I know what a Summoner is.

But there is nowhere a testimonial about what Summoners should be and shouldn't be. SE goes its own way with this "Summoner".

Summoner = summons "something"

And yeah, we summon different pets. That's it. Nothing else.

If you don't confirm with their way of the Summoner... hey, that's your problem, not theirs.

Someone from WoW saying he knows what a summoner is in Final Fantasy? Im not gonna start a conversation on why summoner XIV is boring I never seen a pet class that boring until now thank god I never played WoW.

[Nyel]

What the heck has it to do with WoW?

I just said Summoner reminds me of my first time classic Warlock - where is the problem?

You can't judge, I can't judge. It is just SE's choice, isn't it?

Maybe it is your turn to accept, that Summoner in FFXIV is different than Summoner in FFXI.
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I don't know what you're hoping for... a complete rework of Summoner? Get serious guys.

[KingBerry]

What the heck has it to do with WoW?

I just said Summoner reminds me of my first time classic Warlock - where is the problem?

You can't judge, I can't judge. It is just SE's choice, isn't it?

Maybe it is your turn to accept, that Summoner in FFXIV is different than Summoner in FFXI.
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I don't know what you're hoping for... a complete rework of Summoner? Get serious guys.

It has everything to do with WoW if you played the game everything is WoW in there.

[Nyel]

It has everything to do with WoW if you played the game everything is WoW in there.

Sorry, but what you say up there is crap.

I played maybe every possible MMO out there. And everywhere is WoW? Take a step back.

Summoner reminds me on another class I played 7 years ago... yeah, everywhere is WoW. Thanks for making my Sunday funny.

Just like how FF10 turned it into something it had never been before, right? There is no iconic "summoner" class because it varied widly from 1-9, and 10, 11, 12, 13, and now 14.

Thank you! That's it.

Maybe you guys should just read this: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Summoner

Summoner is not what you want it to be, it's what SE wants it to be. And you can summon egis in FFXIV, so Summoner is just what the name says.

Before you discuss about turning the Summoner in something completely different, start maintaining the balance issues and try to solve them.

[abesut]

No, it's not.

I know what a Summoner is.

But there is nowhere a testimonial about what Summoners should be and shouldn't be. SE goes its own way with this "Summoner".

Summoner = summons "something"

And yeah, we summon different pets. That's it. Nothing else.

If you don't confirm with their way of the Summoner... hey, that's your problem, not theirs.

That's like saying: Force users are ppl who use the force, so now Obi Wan uses force Lightning and a red lightsaber, and if you don't confirm with Disneys way of the force user, hey that's your problem.
Well guess what? it will be THEIR problem when they suddenly see a lot of Angered fans, when they suddenly took an iconic class and turned it into something it has never been. All other classes/jobs in this game maintain their original way of playing, except for SMN, it is now a warlock with an almost good for nothing pet.

[Kevee]

That's like saying: Force users are ppl who use the force, so now Obi Wan uses force Lightning and a red lightsaber, and if you don't confirm with Disneys way of the force user, hey that's your problem.
Well guess what? it will be THEIR problem when they suddenly see a lot of Angered fans, when they suddenly took an iconic class and turned it into something it has never been. All other classes/jobs in this game maintain their original way of playing, except for SMN, it is now a warlock with an almost good for nothing pet.

Just like how FF10 turned it into something it had never been before, right? There is no iconic "summoner" class because it varied widly from 1-9, and 10, 11, 12, 13, and now 14.

[abesut]

Just like how FF10 turned it into something it had never been before, right? There is no iconic "summoner" class because it varied widly from 1-9, and 10, 11, 12, 13, and now 14.

That's because you can't tell the difference between a summoner and someone who is able to cast summons. A summoner is someone whos main focus is their summon. Garnet, Yuna, FFXI summoner, and Rydia to some degree, (yes she mastered black magic as well), those are real summoners, their Eidolons and them were one. In this version we are disease throwing warlocks, with a pet as a Sidekick, if our summon dies, who cares, we can still kill without being heavily penalized, were a real summoner would had lost his 'sword' so to speak