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  1. #21
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    Ryuko's Avatar
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I understand the gripes people are feeling about wanting summoner to focus more on our pet and less on our person. I get it. But I really have to ask you...

    Honestly, how do you think this job can be adjusted in the grand scope of the game to give more emphasis to the pet?

    Every class in the game has to be CONSTANTLY doing something. They can't just stand there and do nothing. Whether you are a tank or a healer or a dps, you have to be casting, moving, and reacting to your surroundings. If we are more about telling a pet to do something rather than doing something ourselves, how does that fit into the game? Do we stand back and constantly cast spells that tell our PET to do something? (For example, would you prefer if instead of casting DoTs, you stood there and commanded your pet to use DoTs or attacks instead?) If you look at the functionality of it, the way they built summoner really makes 'sense'. Anything else would be a purely aesthetic difference.

    Would I like to see more emphasis on the pets, and perhaps more versatility with them? Sure, I would. But I don't think reworking the class entirely to be where we just stand there and command the pet is going to work.

    In the 'old' FFs, summons came in, did what they wanted, and left.
    In the 'new' FFs, they stand by the summoner's side.
    What if we are venturing into a new level of summoner? What if we are no longer in the 'new' era? (I personally don't mind the change because it fits the lore of the game, and although there are similarities among all FFs, I'm okay with the slight differences...)

    If you have suggestions, I encourage people to submit feedback. However, I would like you to think long and hard about the real functionality behind what you are requesting. You can't just say "I want summons to be more powerful." Give more specific advice. Maybe SE will actually listen.
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  2. #22
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    King Berry
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
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    Summoner does not feel like a summoner at all. His job skill fester how does this benefit summoner? It does nothing for eggi and it only effects all arcanist skill. When I play a monk I feel like a monk, When I play a paladin I feel like a paladin, When I play a bard I feel like a bard, When I play scholar I feel like a scholar, But when I play summoner? I feel like an arcanist and not a summoner.

    If they removed the eggi and summoner I would not be complaining about the class at all. Yoshi teased summoner for an entire year I did not wait an entire year for ARR I waited an entire year for summoner and this is what we get? A warlock only skinned with Final Fantasy? Why would I not be pissed about this?
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  3. #23
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    Rogue Fuki
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    SMN is about the Pet using the pet in battles. You may not of been able to keep the pets out for that long because they would drain your MP in XI but they was a lot more useful when it came to there spells. How you used them was important like using them to help buff ur party like with Garuda. Once ur summon ether died or used up all ur MP then that's where making sure you had ether at hand. SMN has always been a pet class/job but for some reason they have made SMN a warlock. If your happy with that maybe you should go back to playing WOW. To act like the job isn't a tiny bit broken is stupidity in its fullest. If it wasn't as some of you believe then there wouldn't be threads about it. If you don't like her thread why the hell are you commenting stop wasting ur time since ur so happy about the job & play the game instead of wasting ur amazing time here leaving comment that has no meaning to this thread .
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  4. #24
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    Rogue Fuki
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    I understand the gripes people are feeling about wanting summoner to focus more on our pet and less on our person. I get it. But I really have to ask you...
    There's a really good thread on here that i think you should read. Everything you brought up has been brought up answered there and if Square Enix made those improvements which have been stated and which they can do with out having any problems then SMN would no longer be a bit broken lool.
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  5. #25
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    I guess I can just wait for puppetmaster or beastmaster if he doesn't fix summoner at least I know those will be a real pet class and not have DoT.
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  6. #26
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingBerry View Post
    I guess I can just wait for puppetmaster or beastmaster if he doesn't fix summoner at least I know those will be a real pet class and not have DoT.
    I do agree with you there. the ones that are disagreeing with you. I do feel they do not actually understand what a summoner Job really is. Then you have the Ones that act like they know how to play the Job how can you know how to fully play the Job roll when the game has only been out for a week. I have a feeling the more they play the game including once the lv cap is of the more there gonna learn that there are things they didn't even know about the job roll.

    Square Enix made a Forum thread for a reason so they can fully communicate with the gamers. And take feed back from the gamers to improve the game where ever they can. If they was fully happy with the game in its self and all of the job and classes they wouldn't have the option for you to give them feed back now would they?
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  7. #27
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    Nyel Schattenwind
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 47
    I like the Summoner as it is right now.

    I can summong weaker types of Primae, I have DoT's and I really love Fester.

    As a whole the class is completely fine.

    We only need some balance. DoT's ( or at least 2 of our 3 main DoT's ) without cast time / global cooldown, maybe an increased damage for Ruin, increased damage / utility for Tri-desaster and yeah - at least some love for the egis.

    And this class would be great.

    If the Summoner is not what you want it to be, then don't play it. I play the summonere because it reminds me of my WoW Warlock.

    You are not in the position, KingBerry, to judge whether summoner is a summoner or is no summoner. I like the class and SE made it as a DoT-class with pets. What's your point?
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  8. #28
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    Rau Quby
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KingBerry View Post
    Go to the support desk in game and click contact us and click feedback. This is where we can show yoshi that summoner is suppose to be a SUMMONER and not a boring class that spams DoT.

    Complain about the eggi design and size
    Complain that the summoner is all about DoT and not his eggi
    Complain why it should get an overhaul
    Here have my like!
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  9. #29
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    Rau Quby
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    I like the Summoner as it is right now.

    I can summong weaker types of Primae, I have DoT's and I really love Fester.

    As a whole the class is completely fine.

    We only need some balance. DoT's ( or at least 2 of our 3 main DoT's ) without cast time / global cooldown, maybe an increased damage for Ruin, increased damage / utility for Tri-desaster and yeah - at least some love for the egis.

    And this class would be great.

    If the Summoner is not what you want it to be, then don't play it. I play the summonere because it reminds me of my WoW Warlock.

    You are not in the position, KingBerry, to judge whether summoner is a summoner or is no summoner. I like the class and SE made it as a DoT-class with pets. What's your point?
    I guess you don't know what a real summoner is? and the fact that you just said it reminds you of your WoW warlock, just shows that there is a real problem with the job :P
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  10. #30
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    Nyel Schattenwind
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 47
    No, it's not.

    I know what a Summoner is.

    But there is nowhere a testimonial about what Summoners should be and shouldn't be. SE goes its own way with this "Summoner".

    Summoner = summons "something"

    And yeah, we summon different pets. That's it. Nothing else.

    If you don't confirm with their way of the Summoner... hey, that's your problem, not theirs.
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