@Amdapor Keep Whiners

[EdwinLi]

I say to promote people to not speed run have the tome drops increased from tash mobs and lower the rewards for completing dungeons.

Trash Mobs drop 5 tomes per kill.

Bosses drops 15 tomes per kill.

complete dungeon drops 15 tomes.

The whole reason they speed run is not just because it is faster but because the rewards for simply completing the dungeon is more rewarding than killing everything in the dungeon and taking your time.

[Tiraelina]

I fail to see your point. what's so terrible about watching a guide on a fight? Did you never study for tests in school? Or by your logic did you just go into every test and just wing it? a 5 minute video isn't asking a lot. I hated doing it myself as well before. Then I one day decided hey. I'm going to watch this guide. 5 minutes isn't a lot. and lo and behold, I did, and hey, I still had fun in the fight AND I wasn't holding anyone back! WOW!

And if everyone stopped playing like you people love to say, your precious game wouldn't last very long now would it. So give it up with that tired old response, it's unoriginal and seriously getting old.

Reading the answer sheet is the same as studying. Sure thing.

Do you buy strategy guides for all your games too?

[Shonie]

I said research a dungeon before you enter and it greatly decreases the amount of screwups. Speed running consists of mostly skipping trash. You do not need to research trash. Is youtubing a boss fight really too hard to ask that you need to have people sit and type it out for you when you can just watch?
5 minute video is hard.

What's with your attitude?
Is watching a YouTube video hard? No, you're so pro.
It's also not a requirement to playing a game. Some people, I would venture to say most, just want to experience and enjoy the game. Not be met with homework material and prerequisite video studies before every encounter.
You're the type of person that needs to buy Brady guides and piggyback off of others' youtube videos to beat content, we get it. Many people enjoy figuring things out for themselves and don't need people like you telling them how to enjoy a game or how to play.

[Avengedangel]

Yeah I know not everyone is, and I will one day set foot inside there and maybe even finish the main storyline, but that bitterness left behind from an aggressive team is hard to shake off. Heck, I got screamed at for watching the cutscenes in Darkhold and we did it flawlessly on my first run..

Yeah it is hard to shake off :/. Same here but with the last story part. I wish you the best though!

You should probably read my entire post before saying I dont read anything when you obviously didn't read mine. I said research a dungeon before you enter and it greatly decreases the amount of screwups. Speed running consists of mostly skipping trash. You do not need to research trash. Is youtubing a boss fight really too hard to ask that you need to have people sit and type it out for you when you can just watch?
5 minute video is hard.

That kind of ruins the "OH SNAP!" factor though when you first encounter the boss. However, in this case I understand what you're saying seeing as how most of the people react to new tanks (or just players in general) on this dungeon. It really shouldn't have to be like that though.

[Pyrix]

If it weren't for the fact that my connection to the JP servers sucks, I'd never plan on transferring.

[Chiruru53]

What's with your attitude?
Is watching a YouTube video hard? No, you're so pro.
It's also not a requirement to playing a game. Some people, I would venture to say most, just want to experience and enjoy the game. Not be met with homework material and prerequisite video studies before every encounter.
You're the type of person that needs to buy Brady guides and piggyback off of others' youtube videos to beat content, we get it. Many people enjoy figuring things out for themselves and don't need people like you telling them how to enjoy a game or how to play. Whhheee wheeeee Boo hoo stop making a casual like me actually put effort into something

Reading the answer sheet is the same as studying. Sure thing.

Do you buy strategy guides for all your games too? My logic makes no sense!

Watching a video just to get a general idea of a difficult fight makes me a pro? Shut up.. Is watching a video for a dungeon that you know willbe difficult THAT unreasonable? Whats the difference between this and having one of the members sit there having to type and type out an explanation out, inconviencing him when you can just look at a video clip. I'm sure you look at stupider things on youtube than that. Would you rather go in and have no idea what you're doing and mess it up for everyone else and waste their time just cause you don't feel like sitting down and watching it for five measly minutes? It's selfish. I would reccomend researching for duty finder. For friends who also want to learn YOUR way, maybe not so much. SO stop with your unwarrented "justification" for being plain lazy. Yes it's a game. But also be aware there are people who would appreciate someone who at least takes the time to know something about the fight before they start it. "Oh, I hear titan (hard) is called hard for a reason, maybe I should take a look"

This is called consideration for others rather than yourself. Get used to it.

Settle down nerdrage

And with that losing response....

[Shonie]

Settle down nerdrage

[Aicasia]

People rarely listen when you explain anyway, so why even bother trying anymore. The minority that does listen isn't present often enough to justify doing it.

[EdwinLi]

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You really need to settle down right now.

Yes it is good to take time and watch a video but right now proper strategy videos have not be fully created yet due to how early the game been released.

Most people in Endgame are rushing to get the best gear right now rather than focusing on making actual strategy guide videos.

Each strategy video must cover the three rolls: Tanking, DD, and healing.

The video also need to explain what each role must do at certain stages of the fight.

There is also issue of making certain the video is actually a strategy video and not a video about showing off.

Showing off videos will not show everything a person needs to know about the fight like a Strategy video will. Showing off videos are made to show what the boss fight is like in their perspective but will not provide a direct explanation of what is happened and why Person A perfrom this action While Person B perform this action.

Right now there is a strong lack of strategy videos to explain things for player and videos now are mostly showing off videos to show what the fight is like from their perspective rather than provide a direct expanation of what needs to be done by the Tank, DD, and healer.

[Zyeriis]

"Oh, I hear titan (hard) is called hard for a reason, maybe I should take a look"

This is called consideration for others rather than yourself. Get used to it..

The group I ended up in for Titan had no idea what to expect. It ended up as the most enjoyable fight so far, trial and error ftw. I find little enjoyment in knowing everything the first time. It's just a grind from the start in those cases. Which kills a good deal of the perspective fun.

Consideration for other people would be taking 5-20 seconds to list what to look out for rather than demand they watch a 5~ min video before they dare use DF.

If you're at the point where speedruns are ideal, you're probably level 50, meaning there isn't much of an excuse to not have a FC/group who also want to speedrun. In which case, why are you using DF to begin with? This is a MMO, the idea is to make friends? Leave DF for first attempts and/or for desperation (keep your expectations in check).