Defiance still lacking in comparison to Shield Oath

[Jahaudant]

I'm a full time PLD and with an optimized skill rotation, including 100% up time on fracture, my damage on a training dummy in a 120 second period totals between 14k and 15k. I can switch to WAR which I never play, half guess the rotation, mess up fracture, use fury inefficiently, and still put out 17k damage in the same time span.

This is with Shield Oath and Defiance on, of course.

There's your balance.

[Duelle]

I'm a full time PLD and with an optimized skill rotation, including 100% up time on fracture, my damage on a training dummy in a 120 second period totals between 14k and 15k. I can switch to WAR which I never play, half guess the rotation, mess up fracture, use fury inefficiently, and still put out 17k damage in the same time span.

This is with Shield Oath and Defiance on, of course.

There's your balance.

You'd have to compare TPS and DPS and determined if they balance against each other, because one tank being less survivable than the other supersedes DPS e-peen because if you're the tank you're supposed to be able to take the damage and perform comparably.

[Faction]

I'm a full time PLD and with an optimized skill rotation, including 100% up time on fracture, my damage on a training dummy in a 120 second period totals between 14k and 15k. I can switch to WAR which I never play, half guess the rotation, mess up fracture, use fury inefficiently, and still put out 17k damage in the same time span.

This is with Shield Oath and Defiance on, of course.

There's your balance.

It's hilarious that you think what amounts to maybe 10% extra dps from a tank makes the complete lack of any damage mitigation, naturally or from cooldowns, "balanced." I'm sure that if the healers manage to keep the warrior alive, exerting 5x the effort they'd need to for a gladiator, the knowledge that the Warrior might contribute an extra 5k damage across the duration of the fight makes them happy, knowing that if they keep him alive, it's totally worth the trade off!

In practice though that isn't even an advantage. Healers need to heal Gladiators less, meaning they have more time to DPS, meaning with the Gladiator your group is still outputting more damage. All of that effort... for no benefit!