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  1. #41
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    samfisher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vehn View Post
    I'm just gonna say that even when you have super power GPU, it's not use if your CPU can't match your GPU

    You need your processor to feed the data to GPU.
    Without the CPU that capable to feed data to your GPU at it's ability, then the GPU just gonna have to settle down to your CPU thus your low FPS

    That say, that some game that you mention are High GPU, Low CPU type of game
    But some game like FFXIV are the type that High CPU, low GPU type of game

    so unless you upgrade your CPU to match your GPU, i don't think you gonna see any improvement

    --Other people offering you suggestion for the parts to change, i'm offering explanation as to why it works like that
    i5-3570K @ 4.4GHz and 2 7950's in Crossfire with 13.8 Beta 2 drivers overclocked to 1100/1500 and I still get dropped below 60fps sometimes..
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeeGeeTea View Post
    Don't O/C your CPU isn't meant for o/c, you'll burn out your cpu causing it to process much slower in the future.
    that is some of the worst advice ive ever seen on these forums.

    his CPU is a 3570k <--- notice the k? its sold specifically for overclocking.

    overclocking is easy and extremely safe. it also nets you an huge increase in performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dieadre View Post
    In an online game? lol. if only that were true.
    seriously dude? latency does not impact frames per second. EVER.
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  3. #43
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    Thane Thalos
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    I'd just like to point out that you just meet the recommended requirements, all this means is that you will be able to play the game on recommended settings with an avg of 30 fps the default setting I believe is High(laptop) so if you go up from there your going take hits in your performance, main problem this game has is with rendering, turn on culling in the options and double your fps, you may experience a micro stutter hear and there when loading into areas but its all up to personal preference -30 fps everywhere or +30 fps everywhere and a micro stutter when loading large amounts of objects, also this game loves its shadows, try turning the shadow resolution down. if you want 60 solid fps everywhere I recommend buying an 8 core chip and a second video card, if not invest in some cooling and crank that i5 up to 11 and hope for the best. I never liked the i5 tbh it never seemed to perform as advertised.
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  4. #44
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    If you get enough creatures or players moving around on your screen, the framerates will tank. Mostly due to dynamic shadows, I imagine. Little bit more optimization in this area would not hurt, this game is pretty and all, but an MMO is supposed to be accessible. You shouldn't need enthusiast hardware to run it smoothly.

    Here's some benchmarks BTW: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnFkM1_JharvdGlIc0dwMmcyWDVoR1gzTGp2UlJUVmc#gid=0

    The game does appears to support multi-core setups quite well, but the gains from hyperthreading (i7 vs i5 processors) are not that significant, as is typically the case for games.
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    Last edited by Tanukki; 09-05-2013 at 02:55 AM.

  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dremic View Post
    his CPU is a 3570k <--- notice the k? its sold specifically for overclocking.
    3000's k series aren't enthusiasts level as the multiplier's locked, you'll need 4000's k series to be able to o/c.
    Just because it has a K doesn't mean it's meant for O/C.

    http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...overclocking/1
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeeGeeTea View Post
    3000's k series aren't enthusiasts level as the multiplier's locked, you'll need 4000's k series to be able to o/c.
    Just because it has a K doesn't mean it's meant for O/C.

    http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...overclocking/1
    You seem to be wrong. The K indicates it's unlocked/overclockable. That article just said that "the 4000 series will also use the same K designation". You can overclock the 3570K on accident by sneezing - that's how easy it is.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeeGeeTea View Post
    3000's k series aren't enthusiasts level as the multiplier's locked, you'll need 4000's k series to be able to o/c.
    Just because it has a K doesn't mean it's meant for O/C.

    http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...overclocking/1
    OP, don't listen to this guy.

    Have you looked at the power state of your video card while the framerate problems are happening? I have an I5 3570k and a GTX 660 on win8 and have every once in a while noticed the frame rates go from the normal 40-60 (I run 1080p with maximum) to more like 20fps occasionally. When this happens my 660 is also in 2d mode, which means the gpu is running at a minimum clock rate instead of full speed... 435mhz instead of 1120 or so. (The numbers aren't exact, just an example) Restarting my computer fixes it, it seems like the gpu got stuck in the lower power mode... I'm not sure if it's a driver issue or what. This has been an infrequent issue for me, only has happened twice that I can remember.
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  8. #48
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    You really don't know much about the cpus do you. 3000 is Ivy Bridge aka 3rd gen, 4000 is Haswell aka 4th gen. The K stands for unlocked multipliers. It has since the 2000 series processors.
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  9. #49
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    Kyle Ragnador
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    Since last Patch AMD USERs are foreced to increase their maximal allowered TDP on their card.

    You have to set "Power control settings" to +20 to have nearly the same performance like before. (mostly on cards using overclock -> overclocked by manufacturer ,too)




    Example Powercolor HD7870 PCS+ vortex II

    Other Games like BF3, Smite, and programs like 3dMark runs normal like before.

    before patch
    Power control setting: 0 --> 55-68 fps

    after Patch
    Power control setting: 0 --> Card clocks with only 450 mhz results in 20-30 fps on max settings
    Power control setting:+20 --> Card clocks wizh 1150 mhz results in 50-63 fps on max settings


    Same with Catalyst Control Center 13.4 and 13.8 beta 2
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    Last edited by Kyle_Ragnador; 09-05-2013 at 06:25 PM.

  10. #50
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    i5-3570K @ 4.4GHz stable 72 hours on Prime95
    8GB DDR3
    2x 7950 Vapor-X on boost profile (950/1250)
    256GB Vertex 4
    LAN connected to 100Mbps line from Singapore
    13.8 Beta 2 drivers, clean installed

    Nothing else is running except FFXIV. Random drops to 40+FPS in non-intensive areas.
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