Market ward Fix/ Idea

[trinta]

Sweetheart, this isn't your blog. It isn't here for you to proselytize and cry foul when people disagree with you.

It is a forum for discussion. You can't handle discussion, so this really might not be the best place for you.

[Jedgar]

I did post my suggestion to improve your idea. You said I was "on silly pills". You called me rude. You told me to stop posting my ideas.

I'm not sure how you get the idea that I'm the one that needs to shape up.

No I'm the one on "Silly Pills" as I keep saying that there are already stalls in game that can be rented for you retainer to stand in selling your stuff but because they are not organized like a farmers market nor are the Market Wards large enough to accomplished such a task.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

ya because you didn't read about making the zone larger to support pre made stall stops in a better organized fasion.

I think a debate on a suggest, and it being a good idea or bad idear is rude and pointless. And just allientates the poster.

Repeating about "its in game and sucks" is also pointless and rude.

Skimming posts also serves to just increase the chance of misunderstandings

And trin I know this isn't a blog. But I have every right to be upset. I was not looking for a debate on if my idea is good or not.
I was more then willing to hear other ideas. I clearly stated.

When I get in game I just want a market ward to be neat, clean And not stuck in a small room. Like it is now. I seen what they look like, and thet are messy, an eye sore and everyone hates them for that reason.

So.. my idea was just a big detailed "i want to see a neat and clean place."

Kinda the purpose of a suggestions.

So far all anyone is posting on how thet disagree with it i feel that it pointless and counter productive.

[trinta]

I'm going to put you on ignore now, because frankly, trying to understand what you're saying makes my brain hurt.

[Jedgar]

ya because you didn't read about making the zone larger to support pre made stall stops in a better organized fasion.

Its not that I didn't read it, its that I disagree with the need for larger zones because as I stated in my first post about large bazaar zones in EQ its too much of a pain to have to go through to get to the person selling the required item.

I think a debate on a suggest, and it being a good idea or bad idear is rude and pointless. And just allientates the poster.

Repeating about "its in game and sucks" is also pointless and rude.

Debating on forums is natural. And even more so when someone says hey this is my idea. Debate is not rude nor pointless but should allow all parties to gather an informed opinion. Also for the record I have yet to say the Market Wards as they are now or the stalls Suck. I just stated that I have yet to use them nor do I see many other people using them.

Skimming posts also serves to just increase the chance of misunderstandings

See point one.

Its great that you want a more open Market Wards area but improvement on the Markets Wards is one of that last things they need to worry about at the moment, especially after what they have done to them so far. Heck a month ago they were next to worthless but now with the search function scanning all wards in a city and icons over the retainers selling the searched item have almost made needing an AH pointless. The only thing they don't do is link all three city's into one zone and thats something that I don't see fitting in with the current setting.

[trinta]

Also for the record I have yet to say the Market Wards as they are now or the stalls Suck. I just stated that I have yet to use them nor do I see many other people using them.

It seems to me that stall usage was far more common before the search feature was added, and even moreso before the wards were renamed to something meaningful (Black Walnut Ward Three, anyone?). I know that I initially rented one (mainly so I would know where to find my retainer) and my buddy would park his in front of my stall (so he would know where to find his).

Once the wards were reorganized into categories, the search feature was added, and personal retainer character model loading was prioritized, the stall became an unnecessary expense for me, and I imagine others who used to rent them (and there were plenty to start) felt the same.

[Jedgar]

Which would be a good enough reason for me to make them either free to rent or take the rent of the stalls out of the "taxes" we already pay by selling stuff in the wards in the first place.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I'm surprized market wards looked like what they do to begin with.

I found the vids/pics I seen to be a eye sore.

Also...... lets keep on topic because I feel debating on wheather this is a good idea/ or a needed change is just derailing the point of my suggestion. I'm all for hearing your suggestions, just not you disklike of my suggestion and thats it.

:/ I'm trying awefly hard to be nice here. Can you please at least give me that?

[Swev]

Need a system that lets a computer to organize your loot and sell it for you with a price system like runescape and npcs placed by itself without the need of you placing them yourself in the market. (makes it more neat) Then walk around or port in what ever the method is to get to the merchant you want to buy something at. The runescape system makes prices fair based on demand of the item and people cant sell something for 100 gold then sell it to 100k right away just because they feel like it. I know lots hate this system and want it to be more like real life where they can control the prices but lots just want to sell there "crap" and get on with the game. A system like this i would enjoy more.

[trinta]

Which would be a good enough reason for me to make them either free to rent or take the rent of the stalls out of the "taxes" we already pay by selling stuff in the wards in the first place.

The other problem with the stalls is that the lease expires after 24 hours. Ul'dah being the main center of commerce and my least favorite city means that I don't visit my selling retainer very often, so they would need to change the lease length for me to consider using one.

Of course, with the market ward system instead of an AH, summoning your retainer would get rid of your stall anyway; I'm glad they changed it so that we can summon them even if they're selling, but not being able to send them back is just another argument for why we need an AH. I often have to choose between inventory management and selling off my extra stuff.