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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Yeah. Looking at 13, I somehow don't think the Crystal Tools engine was made with collision as its main focus.
    CT was mainly designed as a cinematic engine and to implement seamless transitions from cutscene to gameplay.

    If you build new areas that allow you to jump around, then it would add immersion, like some action mmorpgs (tera XD), I used to be anti jump because of people retardly jumping around but i doubt we'll get that here
    That's severe design clashing. Starter areas = Nothing to explore via jumping. New Areas = requires jumping to fully explore. It has to be pretty universal since take the Ys games for example, almost every area in the PC games at least you need the jump or double jump ability to fully explore, not just one or two areas. The entire game has to make use of a mechanic or it would just be a design clash.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Why doesn't it? I like to have some kind of relationship with the environment. Not just walking and running... Seriously
    The current maps are only explorable where we "see". There is nothing beyond it to be explored if we start jumping over mountains.
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    Last edited by Jennestia; 05-03-2011 at 03:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    CT was mainly designed as a cinematic engine and to implement seamless transitions from cutscene to gameplay.



    That's severe design clashing. Starter areas = Nothing to explore via jumping. New Areas = requires jumping to fully explore. It has to be pretty universal since take the Ys games for example, almost every area in the PC games at least you need the jump or double jump ability to fully explore, not just one or two areas. The entire game has to make use of a mechanic or it would just be a design clash.
    Go into as much detail as you like but the collision still sucks and the game would be better if you could jump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinzfeldt View Post
    Go into as much detail as you like, collision still sucks and the game would be better if you could jump.
    Collision sucks but jumping won't auto-solve it, as there's a "dome" over certain terrains so you can jump but you'll still hit in an invisible barrier unless they completely remove all detection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Collision sucks but jumping won't auto-solve it, as there's a "dome" over certain terrains so you can jump but you'll still hit in an invisible barrier unless they completely remove all detection.
    You're right. It was a *** from the design stage to not have a proper solution, just like the rest of the game.
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    Last edited by Jhanaka; 05-03-2011 at 08:55 AM. Reason: Language

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinzfeldt View Post
    You're right. It was a fuck-up from the design stage to not have a proper solution, just like the rest of the game.
    So much truth.

    it doesn't help that every map is full of random little hills, bumps, and cliffs that you can't walk up or fall off of.
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