EXPLOIT: Amdapor Keep

[naardejood]

This my friend, is called a "Tactical Advantage"

if your tank can handle it - do it. if he can't, strategically plan for plan B.

Why is doing things faster, wrong in some way?

Trash mobs are named "Trash" for a reason.....

be honest your just mad you blow hours at it while they complete it 3x

Running a dungeon as you're intended to run it is plan B? Finding an exploit is plan A? That's your main goal when entering a dungeon? Find out how to get the most benefit out of NOT running the dungeon?

And you're rewarded for completing the dungeon faster, if I'm not mistaken. Exploiting your way past the trash gives you a larger bonus than running it as it was intended. The timer and the trash wouldn't be there if there wasn't a reason for them to be there. I've seen this same argument over and over again on very similar subjects in different games. It always crops up when someone's preferred method of exploiting the mechanics to their advantage comes to light and people are forced to stop exploiting. You sound like one of the douchebags in Firefall that rallied to the forums when their ability to place mineral thumpers on a sheer rock face so mobs couldn't get to it was taken from them. The sky isn't going to fall because you have to play the game you paid for.

And it's not a "Tactical Advantage". That's just an excuse. Exploits don't magically become okay just because you have to find the exploit first. Or hear about it from someone else, as is usually the case.

[Cycloptichorn]

Agreed, this is a 100% exploit and the only people here who are defending it are exploiters who are looking to keep doing it.

[kelsethel]

yeah this is a exploit your crazy if you think its not.
It would be like pulling a raid boss with just the tank let him die and rez him and walk past the boss to get to the next boss it should be like WoW if you pull something in a dungeon the mob will aggro the whole party regardless of where they are in the dungeon.

[Nima]

please fix or respond to this asap square. i consider this gamebreaking seeing how people are getting a advantage by being able to login vs others that can't. I imagine it might work in other dungeons as well.

[HiirNoivl]

How about making killing the mobs worth something.

[Enfarious]

Sac pull is done all the time in FFXI and is a legitimate tactic to get rid of mobs you don't want to fight, and it has been done every since the anti-MPK update many years ago that made mobs depop. I dont' see how this is an exploit in FFXIV, unless somehow XIV's rules are vastly different from XI's. In fact, if SE fixed this by having mobs not depop when the sac dies, it opens the door to wholesale MPK opportunities.

They could add doors that only open after you've defeated X trash mobs or make all trash mobs NM-type so that they don't depop, or something.

Or, simply have the mobs add the entire party to the enmity list rather than just the one person that aggrod the group.
It's an instance so MPKing is kind of a non-issue.
Much like gear swapping in combat wasn't an intended tactic in XI, it was an exploit (a means for players to do something that was not originally intended by the design team) but it was one that spread too far and too fast to be fixed. This has not, sac pulling doesn't need to become a 'rule' yet, and if fixed early, then it can doesn't have to become one.

[Blacklore]

Fix this SE. No EZ-mode, please.

[natwig]

so because i can do a dungeon in 25 minute instead of 50 minute its a exploit that makes no sense and i have noticed most of the people that are saying this is a exploit can not even do the dungeon i checked there characters and the OP his top job is 31 so why is that big of a deal to him i just think he has nothing else to cry about

[Arale]

As much as I'd like to do fast runs for tombstones, I feel it would be an insult to the dungeon and the experience as a whole. Hopefully this gets fixed.

[Myrik]

didn't know this was an exploit.. there are several dungeons where this is employed in this game.. /shrug id like a dev response to this so I know im not breaking the rules by doing this with parties.