im sorry but i have to say that of all the mmorpg's i have ever played i have never seen such a sad set of tanks. i think of all the dungeons i have run so far i might have met 1 who knew what they were doing and kept aggro for the rest of us to play our roles they way they should be. yes this is a hard dungeon BUT thats how it should be! if tanks find it to hard then practice the role more and come back...else go back to playing WoW where all the enemy's have been nerfed down to the point where it isnt even fun any more. i give SE props for making an MMO where i cant level cap a class in a week! THANK YOU! finally a challenge! Worth every penny i spent on this game!