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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by wudup View Post
    Mistakes were made on SE's part, they should have prepared ahead of time, but they didn't, hindsight is 20/20 all we can hope for now is that they do it quickly from here on out, honestly though, I'd rather them take it slow and do it right, even if it drags on another week, that's just my opinion
    You understand that this is a do over game from a prior failure, yes? You're one of those, "Gold medals and trophies for everyone!" types aren't ya? Which is fine, truly, I shouldn't act that way towards you and I apologize. We just gave them the chance to take it slow and do it right...it didn't work.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by skitzopath View Post
    The big question I have here is why by all that is holy would they keep the servers for their NA/EU clusters in Japan? Even if they were to keep them in Japan it takes 12 hours to fly nonstop from LAX to Nagasaki (at least thats what it took me back in 1993 when I was on my way to my duty station in Sasebo Japan) so 4 days to ship are a bit on the extreme side. Square Enix is a large company who has millions of dollars at it's disposal. Trifling matters like server capacity should be a non issue for them.
    The thing is, SE is not really that super rich company you remember it, they lost a lot of money with the first launch of 14 and a few other mistakes, I think it was 100 million if i'm not mistaken, most of their money comes from backers who are probably placing limitations on how there dollars are to be spent, their desperate, just like when they released the first Final Fantasy, hopefully this will lead to good things, As I already dedicated my dollars towards this game

    Edit:Let me edit this by saying that this is by no means an excuse, just answering the "are they super rich question"
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    Last edited by wudup; 09-03-2013 at 05:07 AM. Reason: added information

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    Quote Originally Posted by skitzopath View Post
    The big question I have here is why by all that is holy would they keep the servers for their NA/EU clusters in Japan? Even if they were to keep them in Japan it takes 12 hours to fly nonstop from LAX to Nagasaki (at least thats what it took me back in 1993 when I was on my way to my duty station in Sasebo Japan) so 4 days to ship are a bit on the extreme side. Square Enix is a large company who has millions of dollars at it's disposal. Trifling matters like server capacity should be a non issue for them.
    I know right, this is what has me so fumed. it shouldn't take a flag ship game company this long to get everyone on board.
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    Indeed.
    Like others...I'd just like to play.
    Of course I'm not flippin my **** because I can't. (besides I still have PSO2 haha)
    It is annoying to see 1017,2002 or the infamous "Unable to update NA/EU" haha
    And provided they stay with their word and extended the free time...I'm personally fine...except for $30 for the game...i didn't really lose anything...so long as I get my 30 days free trial with limited problems....I'm good.

    Really that only thing I've lost if anything was time trying to get into game but that can be said for ANY game someone plays so that was time I decided to waste lol


    Yes I'm a little disappointed this wasn't handled during beta but at the same time...nothing I....or anyone here can "directly" do.
    Sadly its just a waiting game...

    I'll give them the shadow of a doubt and see that they do and hopefully...the maint for tomorrow fix this issue....

    According to one of my friends...a mutual friend of ours...broke their disk because they couldn't play...and i find that sad...as...you pretty much threw away your money (whether he did normal or collector's idk)


    Also just for nostalgia and lil comic relief...
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    Last edited by jaye3rd89; 09-03-2013 at 05:05 AM.

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necropoke View Post
    You understand that this is a do over game from a prior failure, yes? You're one of those, "Gold medals and trophies for everyone!" types aren't ya? Which is fine, truly, I shouldn't act that way towards you and I apologize. We just gave them the chance to take it slow and do it right...it didn't work.
    They spent 3 years remaking the game, not optimizing servers, the game came out wonderful, and when I say mistakes were made, but no means did I say they were acceptable, but that they happened and there's nothing we can do about the past, honestly the only reason I can pull out a positive attitude was because I was able to log in and see the fruits of their effort.

    This is for you
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  6. #26
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    actually they have never flat out stated they will "Fix" the problems. They are just adding more servers and such. Although the grand details of the patch still remain a mystery, and could contain some sort of fix, the main issue is players getting the mentality of "once you log on, don't dare log out or you won't get back on" because there are too many players per World.


    We really need a World Transfer to help, and limit the creation of 1 character per account until the hype dies a bit. Meaning you can only play on 1 server, with 1 character, at any given time. Adding a method to boot the AFK would help greatly, freeing up time every X minutes (a set interval for AFK kicking) thus freeing up space all day long, not just during peak hours or prime time.


    World Transfer - get players off congested servers with little/no loss and onto less congested ones.

    AFK Kick - freeing up space for players who actually want to play, instead of those just "preparing" to play.

    and finally More Servers - because if every sever is locked down, obviously they are making enough money to get more to help with the mass influx of new players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wudup View Post
    The thing is, SE is not really that super rich company you remember it, they lost a lot of money with the first launch of 14 and a few other mistakes, I think it was 100 million if i'm not mistaken, most of their money comes from backers who are probably placing limitations on how there dollars are to be spent, their desperate, just like when they released the first Final Fantasy, hopefully this will lead to good things, As I already dedicated my dollars towards this game
    Square Enix is far from broke. They did loose something along the lines of 100 mil on FFXIV 1.0. And I'm positive that the investors are having a good old fashioned come-apart about them spending money. Investors are funny that way. But you have to remember that final fantasy is not their only franchise. This is the same Square Enix that released the Tomb Raider reboot earlier this year they made a killing on that game alone. And if they can make a popping noise as they pull their collective heads out of their collective asses they stand to make an even bigger profit by addressing the issues with this game and not alienating the North American and European crowds. I would be willing to give them more time to fix issues if it were anything other than population issues they were having. But considering that this game is a masterpiece that is unplayable due to nothing more than the ineptitude if their server architecture I am not willing to wait for weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaye3rd89 View Post
    Indeed.
    Like others...I'd just like to play.
    Of course I'm not flippin my **** because I can't. (besides I still have PSO2 haha)
    It is annoying to see 1017,2002 or the infamous "Unable to update NA/EU" haha
    And provided they stay with their word and extended the free time...I'm personally fine...except for $30 for the game...i didn't really lose anything...so long as I get my 30 days free trial with limited problems....I'm good.

    Really that only thing I've lost if anything was time trying to get into game but that can be said for ANY game someone plays so that was time I decided to waste lol


    Yes I'm a little disappointed this wasn't handled during beta but at the same time...nothing I....or anyone here can "directly" do.
    Sadly its just a waiting game...

    I'll give them the shadow of a doubt and see that they do and hopefully...the maint for tomorrow fix this issue....

    According to one of my friends...a mutual friend of ours...broke their disk because they couldn't play...and i find that sad...as...you pretty much threw away your money (whether he did normal or collector's idk)


    Also just for nostalgia and lil comic relief...
    I have PSo2 as well, fun game, took me a long time to figure out what a taco was.
    I'm also facing the unable to find NA/EU error so I'm out for a while, but I'm also angry, just patient, or at least I hope so.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by skitzopath View Post
    Square Enix is far from broke. They did loose something along the lines of 100 mil on FFXIV 1.0. And I'm positive that the investors are having a good old fashioned come-apart about them spending money. Investors are funny that way. But you have to remember that final fantasy is not their only franchise. This is the same Square Enix that released the Tomb Raider reboot earlier this year they made a killing on that game alone. And if they can make a popping noise as they pull their collective heads out of their collective asses they stand to make an even bigger profit by addressing the issues with this game and not alienating the North American and European crowds. I would be willing to give them more time to fix issues if it were anything other than population issues they were having. But considering that this game is a masterpiece that is unplayable due to nothing more than the ineptitude if their server architecture I am not willing to wait for weeks.
    Looks like I did edit my post in time, sorry.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by wudup View Post
    I have PSo2 as well, fun game, took me a long time to figure out what a taco was.
    I'm also facing the unable to find NA/EU error so I'm out for a while, but I'm also angry, just patient, or at least I hope so.
    Earlier when I tried...
    1st Attempt: 1017
    2nd Attempt: 1017
    3rd Attempt: Unable to update to US/EU list

    Mind you all 3 attempts where within 15 second time period lol
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