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  1. #81
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    It's different from 1.0 -- that much is apparent, but it doesn't exactly bother me... and here's why:

    Miqo'te are humanoids. Based on humans and cats. The mithra and miqo'te have always been very 'petite' compared to the race that is STRICTLY based on humans (Hume/Hyur). I am a very petite female, and I always chose the cat races because their body shape/size fit my shape/size perfectly. It represented my body shape well. So you have small breasts and a small butt... I don't see a problem, because this race isn't meant to be a human, but rather a humanoid.

    If we want to complain about how the Hyurs look... that's fine, because they're supposed to be humans... or perhaps even the Elezen because they're a more established 'race' in the fantasy world and tend to look the same except for being taller and with pointy ears... but complaining about miqo'te seems silly because miqo'te are cat people. Cats are lean. They don't have curves like humans do. The tail and the ears are drastically different. ;P
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    Last edited by Ryuko; 09-01-2013 at 03:06 PM.

  2. #82
    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    It's different from 1.0 --
    The mithra and miqo'te have always been very 'petite' compared to the race that is STRICTLY based on humans (Hume/Hyur).
    I don't see a problem, because this race isn't meant to be a human, but rather a humanoid.

    complaining about miqo'te seems silly because miqo'te are cat people. Cats are lean. They don't have curves like humans do. The tail and the ears are drastically different. ;P
    I’ve always liked the petite look as well but this is over the top, this is petite to the point where it no longer makes sense and looks horrible IMO, the back and shoulders compared to the rear and when you increase bust size makes the rear look really abnormal.
    In 1.0 the character still looked way more petite than the other races but it was still in proportion with its body, just because she is a humanoid doesn’t excuse the fact that they were never made to have no shape VS having curves in the past and with this new 2.0 flatness, I deem it more than worthy of complaint.
    This is the Mithra figure, note the character is petite in the upper region but the lower still has body shape, 1.0 Miquo’te represented this same lower body and upper body structure.

    2.0 introduced the ability to have a less petite upper body than both FFXI’s Mithra and 1.0’s Miquo’te but then they remove the lower body’s shape..
    This is worthy of complaint.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 09-09-2013 at 07:06 PM.

  3. #83
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    Have youuuu ever seen a real body.


    No. I spent the last 4 years at an art school not doing that.

    So why doesn't my “FEMALE” Character have an ass and hips?
    She does. They're just not as oversized as you're accustomed to (Which is kinda a shame, but it's still the base model as 1.0 just less polys). If you think those are man hips, you've never compared the two.
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    I didn't play 1.0 but coming here from Tera/Aion... I was highly disappointed in the character models for all races/genders.
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    When I lived in China, a big butt was considered unattractive. but it maybe be the same in Japan. I doubt you will ever be able to adjust butt size in this game. And they probably overlooked and didn't really care about it.
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  6. #86
    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post

    She does. They're just not as oversized as you're accustomed to (Which is kinda a shame, but it's still the base model as 1.0 just less polys). If you think those are man hips, you've never compared the two.
    If it's only polys why is the bottom half effected so greatly by it compared to the upper which appears to remain the very close to the same as 1.0, even if it was just the polys that caused this massive change in the body's structure adjustments should have been made to cover it.

    Also IMO they were far from oversizeed, they were just proportioned better and IMO it was a normal size and now there is one extream opposite in the lower area and a new extream opposite in the upper area.., you drew pictures of girls with flat asses, tiny hips, broad shoulders with big jugs?.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    If it's only polys why is the bottom half effected so greatly by it compared to the upper which appears to remain the very close to the same as 1.0, even if it was just the polys that caused this massive change in the body's structure adjustments should have been made to cover it.
    Because:
    1. A loss of polys is a loss of curvature. You sacrifice smoothness.
    2. The lighting system has changed. We don't get soft highlights detailing more prominent curvature on the skin. The crappy dynamic lighting system can't quite capture the details of the displacement maps.
    3. You're exaggerating the difference from over-analysis.

    However, we do need an ass slider. That much is true.

    Also IMO they were far from oversizeed, they were just proportioned better and IMO it was a normal size and now there is one extreme opposite in the lower area and a new extreme opposite in the upper area.., you drew pictures of girls with flat asses, tiny hips, broad shoulders with big jugs?.
    Yeah. Girls with small asses exist. And those shoulders are hardly broad for women.
    The boob thing however is a result of adding the slider to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Not much can be said about that. It's only disproportional if you choose to make it too big.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zehira View Post
    We are Miqo'tes we will have to deal with it like some of Roegadyns want their tail but the dev team will never change it.
    I'd settle for having this hairstyle fixed.
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    Last edited by Gramul; 09-01-2013 at 04:23 PM.

  8. #88
    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
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    I think abandoning this completely is my biggest problem with it, I don't mind what they do about it just so long as they at least do something about it VS nothing at all.
    They can slowly make adjustments to the game improving it over time, this is something that needs adjustments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post

    Yeah. Girls with small asses exist. And those shoulders are hardly broad for women.

    I know girls with small asses exist and I disagree about the shoulders I think they look odd now because there is no backside to match lol, but there backs and ass are still likely in proportion with there body because over all there mass is smaller and there front is probably small to match... unless they have breast implants..
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    Last edited by Vandark; 09-01-2013 at 04:33 PM.

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    We are Miqo'tes we will have to deal with it like some of Roegadyns want their tail but the dev team will never change it.
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    Someone needs to get a freaken girlfriend damn virigins.
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